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From: "Ed Falis" <falis@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: ICFP2004 results are in
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:31:37 GMT
Date: 2004-09-22T19:31:37+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <opseqtt5ow5afhvo@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 876566f6nf.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net

On 22 Sep 2004 21:25:08 +0200, Samuel Tardieu <sam@rfc1149.net> wrote:

> Moreover, Ward Cunningham and Kent Beck,
> the fathers of XP, were Smalltalk programmers and used refactoring a
> lot.

Using refactoring and using a refactoring browser are two different  
things.  I never saw a requirement for a refactoring browser in any of  
Beck's early books on XP.  Having used many of the XP basic practices, I  
still don't think it's a requirement (and how many other languages had  
such browsers when people started applying XP and agile methods)?

Yes, it would be nice to have a refactoring browser for Ada, but it XP and  
agile methods can still be applied without such a magic bullet.

- Ed



  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-22 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-21 20:19 ICFP2004 results are in Martin Dowie
2004-09-22  0:15 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22  3:37   ` Hyman Rosen
2004-09-22 15:08     ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22 15:14       ` Ed Falis
2004-09-22 17:30         ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-09-22 17:42           ` Ed Falis
2004-09-22 19:25             ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-09-22 19:31               ` Ed Falis [this message]
2004-09-22 23:32             ` Rod Chapman
2004-09-23  1:41               ` Ed Falis
2004-09-23  8:35                 ` Martin Krischik
2004-09-23 13:07                   ` Ed Falis
2004-09-22 23:13           ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-23  1:38             ` Ed Falis
2004-09-23 23:54               ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-23 14:15             ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-09-23 23:58               ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-24  1:33                 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-22 12:04 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-09-22 12:56   ` Martin Dowie
2004-09-22 19:50     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-09-22 13:01   ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-22 14:02     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-09-22 21:19       ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-09-22 21:41         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-09-22 14:16     ` Martin Dowie
2004-09-22 14:29       ` stephane richard
     [not found] <20040921221021.CBB084C4140@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-10-02 12:27 ` Andrew
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