From: Samuel Tardieu <sam@rfc1149.net>
Subject: Re: ICFP2004 results are in
Date: 22 Sep 2004 21:25:08 +0200
Date: 2004-09-22T21:25:10+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <876566f6nf.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: opseqorhc55afhvo@localhost
>>>>> "Ed" == Ed Falis <falis@verizon.net> writes:
Ed> A refactoring editor is nice to have, but definitely not a must to
Ed> use agile methods. Remember, they didn't exist when XP was being
Ed> developed.
Wrong. The Smalltalk refactoring browser was created in mid 1994,
while extreme programming has been developped circa 1999 if I am not
mistaken (at the beginning of 2000, few books existed on the subject,
but the famous "White Book"). Moreover, Ward Cunningham and Kent Beck,
the fathers of XP, were Smalltalk programmers and used refactoring a
lot. So I'd really say a refactoring editor is really a must. Sure,
you can do without it, but the productivity will be highly
decreased.
I hope we'll see a refactoring editor in Ada one day, perhaps in GPS,
but this is not an easy thing to do.
Sam
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-21 20:19 ICFP2004 results are in Martin Dowie
2004-09-22 0:15 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22 3:37 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-09-22 15:08 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22 15:14 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-22 17:30 ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-09-22 17:42 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-22 19:25 ` Samuel Tardieu [this message]
2004-09-22 19:31 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-22 23:32 ` Rod Chapman
2004-09-23 1:41 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-23 8:35 ` Martin Krischik
2004-09-23 13:07 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-22 23:13 ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-23 1:38 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-23 23:54 ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-23 14:15 ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-09-23 23:58 ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-24 1:33 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-22 12:04 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-09-22 12:56 ` Martin Dowie
2004-09-22 19:50 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-09-22 13:01 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-22 14:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-09-22 21:19 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-09-22 21:41 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-09-22 14:16 ` Martin Dowie
2004-09-22 14:29 ` stephane richard
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2004-10-02 12:27 ` Andrew
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