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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Latest suggestion for 202x
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:00:37 +0200
Date: 2019-06-22T11:00:37+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <qekqnl$1vpk$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: qekpnl$geo$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk

On 2019-06-22 10:43, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
> news:qekjbb$vu0$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> ...
>>> Why *should* array
>>> indexing and function calls be treated as the same thing?
>>
>> Because they model the same thing, a mapping, when arrays come in
>> consideration.
> 
> Arrays only exist because they mapped easily to early hardware. In a modern,
> container-based system, there is no reason for them to exist separately --
> they are just a kind of container. Perhaps the compiler would map them to a
> hardware array specially, but that simply doesn't matter.

Another cases are having control over memory management and 
marshaling/serialization, when keeping object in a single contiguous 
location is important.

> Specifically, I'd suggest that "array" is a container very similar to
> "vector" (esp. the bounded flavor). It should have roughly the same
> operations, just no expandability.
> 
> That would require separating strings and arrays, but that would clearly be
> a good thing -- a string needs to support multiple representations while
> that's rarely needed for arrays.

Just let strings have two container interfaces at once. Here is a case 
where different brackets could be useful. E.g. S(I) could give a code 
point/character, S[J] could give an encoding unit, e.g. octet for UTF-8 
string or word for UCS-2. However overloading of () should work no 
problem, IMO.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-22  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-15 23:59 Latest suggestion for 202x Micah Waddoups
2019-06-16  5:14 ` Jerry
2019-06-16  7:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-16 10:22 ` Egil H H
2019-06-16 16:54   ` Maciej Sobczak
2019-06-16 20:09     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-17  6:54     ` Egil H H
2019-06-17  7:42       ` J-P. Rosen
2019-06-17 12:01     ` Mart van de Wege
2019-06-17 13:35       ` Maciej Sobczak
2019-06-17 15:20         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-17 15:32           ` Paul Rubin
2019-06-17 16:43             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-17 21:38           ` Keith Thompson
2019-06-18 15:48             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-06-20 22:21             ` Randy Brukardt
2019-06-21  9:42               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-21 18:12                 ` Keith Thompson
2019-06-21 18:43                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-21 20:24                     ` Keith Thompson
2019-06-22  6:54                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-22  8:43                         ` Randy Brukardt
2019-06-22  9:00                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2019-06-22 17:44                         ` Keith Thompson
2019-06-22 18:34                           ` Bill Findlay
2019-06-22 18:37                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-23  7:38                             ` G.B.
2019-06-23  8:29                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-23 18:34                               ` Optikos
2019-06-23 19:20                                 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-06-22 20:48                           ` Optikos
2019-06-22 20:53                             ` Optikos
2019-06-23 17:42                             ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-06-24  5:07                               ` J-P. Rosen
2019-06-24  5:40                                 ` Paul Rubin
2019-06-24  7:16                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2019-06-26 18:00                                     ` Stephen Leake
2019-06-24 13:07                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2019-06-24 11:12                                 ` Stefan.Lucks
2019-06-24 12:06                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2019-06-24 20:22                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2019-06-24 20:32                                       ` Keith Thompson
2019-06-24 20:47                                       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2019-06-24 13:10                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2019-06-22  8:36                   ` Randy Brukardt
2019-06-22 17:39                     ` Keith Thompson
2019-06-16 19:34 ` Optikos
2019-06-16 20:10   ` John Perry
2019-06-16 20:57     ` Optikos
2019-06-16 21:36       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-06-17 16:48     ` G. B.
2019-06-17 17:12     ` Paul Rubin
2019-06-16 21:41 ` Lucretia
2019-06-19  2:36 ` Micah Waddoups
2019-06-19 11:14   ` Lucretia
2019-06-19 11:45     ` briot.emmanuel
2019-06-19 14:34       ` Optikos
2019-06-19 19:29         ` Lucretia
2019-06-19 16:12   ` G. B.
2019-06-23 20:17 ` Per Sandberg
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