From: David Botton <david@botton.com>
Subject: AdaWorld and AdaPower
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:22:08 -0500
Date: 2004-11-03T23:22:08-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2004110323220875249%david@bottoncom> (raw)
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(Stephane, not sure if this is the best place to discuss this, so I am
comfortable on the admin-list @ AdaPower.com or in private e-mails if
you prefer).
Some time back we got in to some discussion, but never really focused
on the different needs and roles our sites could serve to the community.
AdaPower has always had its main focus as being a practical "tool" for
Ada the language (it started as the Ada Source Code Treasury off my
home page and grew in to AdaPower), but not really on the Ada community
(sure it does a bit of that, but has never been "the" site for that). I
don't foresee that changing and in fact with the new design and some
future plans, I see it becoming even more focused on code, tutorials,
articles, etc.
In fact if I was going to do another site, I would add an Ada community
center, I would create something say called AdaWorld :-)
AdaWorld has already made strong head way in this regard. I would think
that we put our heads together on AdaWorld, much as you have done so
for AdaPower in the past and now, and push forward head strong in to it
(I am ready to put my money behind my mouth here so to speak an be part
of making this happen if you would like also) and make it both the
compliment and to some degree the umbrella in relationship to AdaPower
and other like sites.
Here is how I think AdaWorld can and should become the Ada Community
Site (perhaps you or others see more):
* Current events that relate to the Ada community
- Conferences / Call to papers
A fantastic list is currently kept up to date by Dirk Craeynest at
http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~dirk/ada-belgium/events/index.html That
list could be mirrored at AdaWorld and reach more people.
- Product Announcements
Perhaps a form that would output press releases and announcements for
Ada product releases, releases of new versions of code packages for
reuse, etc. It could automatically send out a message to CLA, a list
that people could join off of AdaWorld, and perhaps Team-Ada. I realize
that there is a list at Ada IC, but very sadly it is focused on
supporting ARA vendors and not the Ada community as a whole (although
certainly this does so on many levels, but not in the capacity at
hand). An AdaWorld open alternative for Ada PR stories / announcements
would be a welcome addition to the Ada World :-)
- Ada course announcements
There are courses being given on Ada even for free in various places.
For example, I am considering doing a series of live web cast tutorials
on Ada. Getting some others to do the same. A good community center
would be key to making this type of work a success.
* Ada Advocacy (in general and for the common man)
A center for collecting together much as AdaPower does for code and
packages, of advocacy information. There is tons of it spread thin all
over the net. While there are some Ada advocacy sites, they are fairly
centered on certain themes. Some oriented around dependability, others
coding readability, etc. etc. They also target varied markets. One
market not being focused on and should be a big part of this is the
common man, the application developer and the IT dude. The Big Linux
book goes a long way to reach out to the common man, but a solid
resource for Ada advocacy to non-critical engineering types is _very
badly_ needed!
* Community Guide (as a guided tour)
A step by step guide in a "tour" book format to getting started in the
Ada community.
Where to go for code for reuse.
Where to talk about Ada and get help.
The history of Ada
Where Ada is going and where it has been
Key things to try out in Ada that will make you want to stick with the language
and much more
* Cool Factor Factory
Ada needs to be cool. The very thing that has "killed" Ada can be what
makes it the biggest "turn on". When I find a good geeky high schooler
/ CS1er around that I want to convert to Ada, I tell him using Ada via
GNATCOM you can program missiles to fire from a word document (and that
is a fact!). I tell him stuff like:
Ada - Military Grade Programming!
If you can get it to compile man, you just about know its goin' to
work. Check this out (examples shown)
I am not going to sell the M$ generation on reality, damn M$ alread
made us believe bugs are features too :-) Vote for, Bug rights now!
If I could see straight (its getting late), I'd write more, but I think
the picture is clear as to the need for an Ada community site. AdaWorld
has already started to dance in that space, the other sites that exist
are too focused and/or not maintained. I think and would want to be
part of an AdaWorld taking the lead in this space.
My 2 dollars and 43 cents :-)
David Botton
http://www.adapower.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-04 4:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-01 5:55 AdaPower Search David Botton
2004-11-01 23:54 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-11-03 14:42 ` Jiri Navratil
2004-11-03 15:30 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-11-03 16:28 ` stephane richard
2004-11-04 4:22 ` David Botton [this message]
2004-11-04 11:28 ` AdaWorld and AdaPower stephane richard
2004-11-05 23:51 ` Tom
2004-11-06 0:41 ` stephane richard
2004-11-07 0:33 ` David Botton
2004-11-04 20:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-11-04 3:12 ` AdaPower Search David Botton
2004-11-04 13:45 ` David Botton
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