The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[John McCabe]

Has anyone come across this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADA-Ultimate-Beginners-Guide-Programming/dp/B08N3F32VB/ref=sr_1_4?crid=32UJ2UP8UQ7XG&dchild=1&keywords=ada+programming&qid=1606830277&s=books&sprefix=ada+pr%2Cstripbooks%2C151&sr=1-4

It looks like complete nonense from Amazon's "Look Inside" feature!

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[AdaMagica]

Looks like it's been written in German and automatically translated.
For instance:
wait for cash
I guess this is "wartbar" - maintainable.
"warten" is wait and also maintain, "bar" is able and also cash.
OMG!

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[Luke A. Guest]

On 01/12/2020 13:50, John McCabe wrote:
> Has anyone come across this:
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADA-Ultimate-Beginners-Guide-Programming/dp/B08N3F32VB/ref=sr_1_4?crid=32UJ2UP8UQ7XG&dchild=1&keywords=ada+programming&qid=1606830277&s=books&sprefix=ada+pr%2Cstripbooks%2C151&sr=1-4
> 
> It looks like complete nonense from Amazon's "Look Inside" feature!
> 

Self published by someone without a solid grasp of English, good move. 
There's a lot of B's in there, strange.

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[Luke A. Guest]

I should've gone further, she has more than this one book, not well 
rated either.

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[Jerry Petrey]

On 12/1/20 6:50, John McCabe wrote:
> Has anyone come across this:
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADA-Ultimate-Beginners-Guide-Programming/dp/B08N3F32VB/ref=sr_1_4?crid=32UJ2UP8UQ7XG&dchild=1&keywords=ada+programming&qid=1606830277&s=books&sprefix=ada+pr%2Cstripbooks%2C151&sr=1-4
> 
> It looks like complete nonense from Amazon's "Look Inside" feature!
> 


It certainly makes you suspicious whenthey spell it ADA on the front and 
back cover!

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[John McCabe]

On Tuesday, 1 December 2020 at 19:17:46 UTC, Jerry Petrey wrote:
> On 12/1/20 6:50, John McCabe wrote: 
> > Has anyone come across this: 
> > 
> > https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADA-Ultimate-Beginners-Guide-Programming/dp/B08N3F32VB/ref=sr_1_4?crid=32UJ2UP8UQ7XG&dchild=1&keywords=ada+programming&qid=1606830277&s=books&sprefix=ada+pr%2Cstripbooks%2C151&sr=1-4 
> > 
> > It looks like complete nonense from Amazon's "Look Inside" feature! 
> >
> It certainly makes you suspicious whenthey spell it ADA on the front and 
> back cover!

Mmm - yes, that was the first thing I noticed about it, then "ada" written just under it in the subtitle!

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[Jeffrey R. Carter]

On 12/1/20 4:24 PM, AdaMagica wrote:
> Looks like it's been written in German and automatically translated.
> For instance:
> wait for cash

Probably the most important S/w-engineering goal.

> I guess this is "wartbar" - maintainable.
> "warten" is wait and also maintain, "bar" is able and also cash.

Thanks, I was curious where that came from.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"
Dr. Strangelove
30

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[AdaMagica]

> There's a lot of B's in there, strange.

This must have been in the original the German sharp s, also called sz: ß (a ligature), which is by non-Germans always misinterpreted as a capital B. There is even one place where it is interpreted as i3.

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[Brian Drummond]

On Tue, 01 Dec 2020 05:50:41 -0800, John McCabe wrote:

> Has anyone come across this:
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADA-Ultimate-Beginners-Guide-Programming/dp/
B08N3F32VB/ref=sr_1_4?
crid=32UJ2UP8UQ7XG&dchild=1&keywords=ada+programming&qid=1606830277&s=books&sprefix=ada+pr%2Cstripbooks%2C151&sr=1-4
> 
> It looks like complete nonense from Amazon's "Look Inside" feature!

A little bit of digging finds a bunch of related books not just by her 
but also other "authors" all with "MEM LNC" on the cover. 

Here's 2 with apparently identical chapter headings... by "emma william" 
and "john bach" 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Developing-Games-Unity-Programming/dp/
B08M2GS2Z4/ref=sr_1_4

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08BW5Y6MY/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6

Even the "Who this book is for" section is identical between them.
Goodness only knows how Emma's one got TWO stars!



Searching Amazon for "MEM LNC" shows 291 books, apparently evenly split 
between Kpop fan books (?) sold as notebooks (so presumably empty) and 
programming texts.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?
k=MEM+LNC&i=stripbooks&page=5&qid=1609088394&ref=sr_pg_5

Perhaps auto-translation has been used to defeat plagiarism detectors?
Anyway this looks like a sizeable scam and not just one failed self-
publish.

Reporting to Amazon...

-- Brian

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[mgr]

Am 1/12/20 um 22:02 schrieb Jeffrey R. Carter:
> On 12/1/20 4:24 PM, AdaMagica wrote:
>> Looks like it's been written in German and automatically translated.
>> For instance:
>> wait for cash
> 
> Probably the most important S/w-engineering goal.
> 
>> I guess this is "wartbar" - maintainable.
>> "warten" is wait and also maintain, "bar" is able and also cash.
> 
> Thanks, I was curious where that came from.
> 

This is the original: Erfolgreich Programmieren mit Ada
by Diana Schmidt (1994)

https://www.springer.com/de/book/9783540576891

https://books.google.es/books?id=IspfDwAAQBAJ&pg=PR6&lpg=PR6&dq=ada+manfred+dausmann,+wolf-dieter+heker,+Wolfgang+herzog&source=bl&ots=bkN8nmVYiW&sig=ACfU3U0OwxQoBvFnYH4NOvNkK0Kd2WT9bw&hl=es&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjEp7vtsP7tAhWszYUKHfbLAmIQ6AEwAHoECAgQAg#v=onepage&q=ada%20manfred%20dausmann%2C%20wolf-dieter%20heker%2C%20Wolfgang%20herzog&f=false

Re: The Ultimate Beginner's Guide - what on earth?.....

[John McCabe]

On Tuesday, 1 December 2020 at 13:50:43 UTC, John McCabe wrote:
> Has anyone come across this: 
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADA-Ultimate-Beginners-Guide-Programming/dp/B08N3F32VB/ref=sr_1_4?crid=32UJ2UP8UQ7XG&dchild=1&keywords=ada+programming&qid=1606830277&s=books&sprefix=ada+pr%2Cstripbooks%2C151&sr=1-4 
> 
> It looks like complete nonense from Amazon's "Look Inside" feature!

Just wanted to thank you all for your input on this; glad it's not something to be taken seriously!