* A Gtk/GtkAda and Glade question
@ 2020-04-27 12:16 ldries46
2020-05-09 15:06 ` mgr
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From: ldries46 @ 2020-04-27 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
I like the principal of Glade and the way the GUI works but the way it
interfaces with an ADA program I don't like. In one of the older
versions of Glade you can have an Ada output now you only can have an
XML output.
That means that if you have standard packages with dialog's that they
need to have their own .glade file. So you need several GtkBuilder
statements with their own pointer to a .glade file at different
positions on your computer.
Another problem I encountered is that you have for your program constant
strings in your GUI and I do want variables in that positions to change
the look of my GUI by a simple redraw action. One reason is that I want
to create a multi language program So I need for instance the menu to be
possible in several languages (f.i. English, Dutch, German, French and
Spanish) and just switch these languages with one redraw. I can do that
when I do not use the GtkBuilder statement.
I am busy to prepare a program that can create from a .glade file an Ada
Package for initiation of the GUI but I cannot find the necessary
documentation on the XML for the .glade file. I need to know which
objects, properties and signals are possible and the parameters they
need. And if possible the Gtk Statements they must create.
Can anyone tell me where to find them. I have already tried to find a
way via Gate3 but that was also not a way I could go
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* Re: A Gtk/GtkAda and Glade question
2020-04-27 12:16 A Gtk/GtkAda and Glade question ldries46
@ 2020-05-09 15:06 ` mgr
2020-05-13 7:04 ` ldries46
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From: mgr @ 2020-05-09 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 27/4/20 14:16, ldries46 wrote:
> Another problem I encountered is that you have for your program constant
> strings in your GUI and I do want variables in that positions to change
> the look of my GUI by a simple redraw action. One reason is that I want
> to create a multi language program So I need for instance the menu to be
> possible in several languages (f.i. English, Dutch, German, French and
> Spanish) and just switch these languages with one redraw. I can do that
> when I do not use the GtkBuilder statement.
You should look for gettext library support in Glade and the gtkada.intl
package (which is a binding to the former). I haven't tried it, but
interfaces produced by Glade should be translatable using gettext files.
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* Re: A Gtk/GtkAda and Glade question
2020-05-09 15:06 ` mgr
@ 2020-05-13 7:04 ` ldries46
2020-05-13 8:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: ldries46 @ 2020-05-13 7:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mgr
Op 9-5-2020 om 17:06 schreef mgr:
> On 27/4/20 14:16, ldries46 wrote:
> > Another problem I encountered is that you have for your program
> constant
> > strings in your GUI and I do want variables in that positions to change
> > the look of my GUI by a simple redraw action. One reason is that I want
> > to create a multi language program So I need for instance the menu
> to be
> > possible in several languages (f.i. English, Dutch, German, French and
> > Spanish) and just switch these languages with one redraw. I can do that
> > when I do not use the GtkBuilder statement.
>
> You should look for gettext library support in Glade and the
> gtkada.intl package (which is a binding to the former). I haven't
> tried it, but interfaces produced by Glade should be translatable
> using gettext files.
I am glad somebody answered. I could not find the listing of gettext but
I suspect that the answer is not inside that listings. I just want to
know all the possibilities and where applicable for lines like:
<object class="GtkBox" id="box1">
<property name="visible">True</property>
<signal name="activate" handler="On_New" swapped="no"/>
I just found three different types of lines that matter. I think that I
have found all object class names like "GtkBox" here but of the property
name I need far more as which is the case with signal name.
I need the complete set of each of the different types an if there are
more events like object class etc.
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* Re: A Gtk/GtkAda and Glade question
2020-05-13 7:04 ` ldries46
@ 2020-05-13 8:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-15 9:17 ` ldries46
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry A. Kazakov @ 2020-05-13 8:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 2020-05-13 09:04, ldries46 wrote:
> Op 9-5-2020 om 17:06 schreef mgr:
>> On 27/4/20 14:16, ldries46 wrote:
>> > Another problem I encountered is that you have for your program
>> constant
>> > strings in your GUI and I do want variables in that positions to change
>> > the look of my GUI by a simple redraw action. One reason is that I want
>> > to create a multi language program So I need for instance the menu
>> to be
>> > possible in several languages (f.i. English, Dutch, German, French and
>> > Spanish) and just switch these languages with one redraw. I can do that
>> > when I do not use the GtkBuilder statement.
>>
>> You should look for gettext library support in Glade and the
>> gtkada.intl package (which is a binding to the former). I haven't
>> tried it, but interfaces produced by Glade should be translatable
>> using gettext files.
> I am glad somebody answered. I could not find the listing of gettext but
> I suspect that the answer is not inside that listings. I just want to
> know all the possibilities and where applicable for lines like:
> <object class="GtkBox" id="box1">
> <property name="visible">True</property>
> <signal name="activate" handler="On_New" swapped="no"/>
> I just found three different types of lines that matter. I think that I
> have found all object class names like "GtkBox" here but of the property
> name I need far more as which is the case with signal name.
> I need the complete set of each of the different types an if there are
> more events like object class etc.
It is not properties, it is style properties you are looking for. Style
properties can be set in a CSS sheet for a class of widgets and for
individual instances of. It has a quite complex matching algorithm,
admittedly poorly documented. The CSS sheet is defaulted by GTK per user
basis. A sheet can be loaded by the GTK application explicitly. The
widgets get a signal when the style gets changed. For further
information see:
https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html
So, when you create your custom widget, you can define all texts it
would use as style properties of the widget class. Default these
properties to English, that will serve as a fallback. Within the widget
implementation get texts from the corresponding style properties. For
each locale create a CSS file. Load this file when the language is
changed. You can also consider setting left-to-right vs. right-to-left,
if you ever plan Hebrew or Arabic. Of course you can set fonts and
colors. Alas, you cannot embed images into CSS as you could in GTK 2.x
RC files, but there is a workaround via icon factory.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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* Re: A Gtk/GtkAda and Glade question
2020-05-13 8:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
@ 2020-05-15 9:17 ` ldries46
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: ldries46 @ 2020-05-15 9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Op 13-5-2020 om 10:18 schreef Dmitry A. Kazakov:
> On 2020-05-13 09:04, ldries46 wrote:
>> Op 9-5-2020 om 17:06 schreef mgr:
>>> On 27/4/20 14:16, ldries46 wrote:
>>> > Another problem I encountered is that you have for your program
>>> constant
>>> > strings in your GUI and I do want variables in that positions to
>>> change
>>> > the look of my GUI by a simple redraw action. One reason is that I
>>> want
>>> > to create a multi language program So I need for instance the menu
>>> to be
>>> > possible in several languages (f.i. English, Dutch, German, French
>>> and
>>> > Spanish) and just switch these languages with one redraw. I can do
>>> that
>>> > when I do not use the GtkBuilder statement.
>>>
>>> You should look for gettext library support in Glade and the
>>> gtkada.intl package (which is a binding to the former). I haven't
>>> tried it, but interfaces produced by Glade should be translatable
>>> using gettext files.
>> I am glad somebody answered. I could not find the listing of gettext
>> but I suspect that the answer is not inside that listings. I just
>> want to know all the possibilities and where applicable for lines like:
>> <object class="GtkBox" id="box1">
>> <property name="visible">True</property>
>> <signal name="activate" handler="On_New" swapped="no"/>
>> I just found three different types of lines that matter. I think that
>> I have found all object class names like "GtkBox" here but of the
>> property name I need far more as which is the case with signal name.
>> I need the complete set of each of the different types an if there
>> are more events like object class etc.
>
> It is not properties, it is style properties you are looking for.
> Style properties can be set in a CSS sheet for a class of widgets and
> for individual instances of. It has a quite complex matching
> algorithm, admittedly poorly documented. The CSS sheet is defaulted by
> GTK per user basis. A sheet can be loaded by the GTK application
> explicitly. The widgets get a signal when the style gets changed. For
> further information see:
>
> https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-css-overview.html
>
> So, when you create your custom widget, you can define all texts it
> would use as style properties of the widget class. Default these
> properties to English, that will serve as a fallback. Within the
> widget implementation get texts from the corresponding style
> properties. For each locale create a CSS file. Load this file when the
> language is changed. You can also consider setting left-to-right vs.
> right-to-left, if you ever plan Hebrew or Arabic. Of course you can
> set fonts and colors. Alas, you cannot embed images into CSS as you
> could in GTK 2.x RC files, but there is a workaround via icon factory.
>
I am just interested in a list of XML- code used in the .glade files and
Gtk routines they should be translated in. I cannot find this list so
where can I find it?
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