From: Andreas ZEURCHER <ZUERCHER_Andreas@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: Adacore joins with Ferrous Systems to support Rust
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 09:51:59 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <656e414f-cc19-412b-aa7e-23c56675a024n@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <stiv47$bvh$1@gioia.aioe.org>
On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 4:28:26 AM UTC-6, Luke A. Guest wrote:
> On 04/02/2022 03:20, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>
> >> Just like we didn't touch generic packages until much later in the year,
> >> generic subprograms, yeah, because u_d was required early on.
> >>
> >>> objecting to this, I think he was right (philosophically; I've no idea
> >>> about the practicality of alternate approaches).
> >>
> >> How else would you do controlled types?
> >
> > Ada 9x originally had a bunch of magic attributes (similar to streaming). It
> Now I want to know what these magic attributes were! Were they specific
> to a version of OO? Or were they to enable finalization?
Randy, I agree with Luke: were these intermediate design proposals lost entirely or have they (as still extant) have simply not been released publicly? I suspect that at least some of these attributes have nowadays analogues in C++ smart pointer's & Objective-C/Swift's ARC {strong, weak, plain old data not needing finalization, pointed-to-object ownership, presence of finalization subroutine/function/procedure a.k.a. finalizer/destructor, whether this finalizer in a subtype displaces its parent's finalizer versus this finalizer in a subtype chains its finalizer to all of its ancestors' finalizers unwound from most-derived to underived-root, … and so forth}. Or was Tucker's set of magic attributes going an entirely different direction? That intermediate proposal under consideration back in the 1st half of the 1990s might be a quite interesting read (especially by a reader with an interest in envisioning an Ada-esque analogue of Rust's borrow-checker algorithm).
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-02 8:57 Adacore joins with Ferrous Systems to support Rust Paul Rubin
2022-02-02 13:04 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-02 15:29 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2022-02-02 16:36 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-04 17:51 ` Stephen Leake
2022-04-18 16:01 ` Rene
2022-02-02 20:07 ` G.B.
2022-02-03 23:29 ` John McCabe
2022-02-11 17:40 ` amo...@unizar.es
2022-02-11 19:24 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-12 17:34 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2022-02-12 5:22 ` John Perry
2022-02-12 10:08 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2022-02-12 18:24 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2022-02-13 8:10 ` J-P. Rosen
2022-02-14 23:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-15 4:29 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-12 23:59 ` John Perry
2022-02-18 13:24 ` Kevin Chadwick
2022-02-02 20:06 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03 1:34 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-03 2:20 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03 2:52 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-03 4:22 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03 9:54 ` Björn Lundin
2022-02-04 3:38 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-04 5:19 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03 11:30 ` Simon Wright
2022-02-03 12:51 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-04 3:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-04 10:28 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-04 17:51 ` Andreas ZEURCHER [this message]
2022-02-05 4:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-02 16:19 ` Stephen Leake
2022-02-02 18:48 ` Gautier write-only address
2022-02-02 20:03 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-02 20:45 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2022-02-12 4:42 ` 25.BZ943
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