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From: Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Subject: Re: Adacore joins with Ferrous Systems to support Rust
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 18:20:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735l0zo6j.fsf@nightsong.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: stfbf5$bvi$1@gioia.aioe.org

"Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> writes:
> [Ada vs Rust] Er, try learning both and you'll see?

It's a big effort to become expert at either, let alone both.  Basic or
superficial knowledge isn't helpful for such comparisons.  I've read
"Ada Distilled" (Ada 95 version) but still have no clue understanding
most of the Ada discussions in this newsgroup, so there is a big gap
between basic and advanced knowledge of Ada.

>> system really is more precise than Ada's in general, although it doesn't
> How is it?

From what I've heard, Rust's type system is similar to Haskell's.
Haskell's type system can verify stuff just by typechecking, that might
be doable in Ada using SPARK and maybe an external proof assistant, but
not with just types.  Example: a red-black tree using Haskell GADT's
(Generalized Algebraic Data Types):

https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/ti5il/redblack_trees_in_haskell_using_gadts_existential/

> Ada's ahead in most things.

Idk, I'd like to know more.  I've never done anything serious in Ada and
nothing at all in Rust, but C++ seems a lot more fluid than Ada, and
Rust is supposed to compare well with C++.  C++ of course is terrible in
terms of reliability but I'm only referring to the effort needed to bang
out a chunk of code.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-03  2:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-02  8:57 Adacore joins with Ferrous Systems to support Rust Paul Rubin
2022-02-02 13:04 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-02 15:29   ` Marius Amado-Alves
2022-02-02 16:36     ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-04 17:51       ` Stephen Leake
2022-04-18 16:01       ` Rene
2022-02-02 20:07     ` G.B.
2022-02-03 23:29     ` John McCabe
2022-02-11 17:40     ` amo...@unizar.es
2022-02-11 19:24       ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-12 17:34         ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2022-02-12  5:22       ` John Perry
2022-02-12 10:08         ` Marius Amado-Alves
2022-02-12 18:24         ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2022-02-13  8:10           ` J-P. Rosen
2022-02-14 23:25           ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-15  4:29             ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-12 23:59         ` John Perry
2022-02-18 13:24     ` Kevin Chadwick
2022-02-02 20:06   ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03  1:34     ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-03  2:20       ` Paul Rubin [this message]
2022-02-03  2:52         ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-03  4:22           ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03  9:54             ` Björn Lundin
2022-02-04  3:38             ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-04  5:19               ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03 11:30           ` Simon Wright
2022-02-03 12:51             ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-04  3:20               ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-04 10:28                 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-04 17:51                   ` Andreas ZEURCHER
2022-02-05  4:31                   ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-02 16:19 ` Stephen Leake
2022-02-02 18:48 ` Gautier write-only address
2022-02-02 20:03   ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-02 20:45     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2022-02-12  4:42 ` 25.BZ943
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