From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Adacore joins with Ferrous Systems to support Rust
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 21:20:08 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <sti619$p1k$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: stgj3j$12g8$1@gioia.aioe.org
"Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> wrote in message
news:stgj3j$12g8$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 03/02/2022 11:30, Simon Wright wrote:
>> "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> writes:
>>
>>> At uni, we didn't even touch on tagged types, but used controlled
>>> types
>>
>> Of course controlled types are implemented as tagged types. ISTR Dmitry
>
> We had a book with a reading guide. We weren't shown the specs showing the
> type of controlled/limited_controlled. So, when you don't have that
> information and only know that you can derive from it and then implement 2
> or 3 subprograms, you don't need to know about OOP in Ada.
>
> Just like we didn't touch generic packages until much later in the year,
> generic subprograms, yeah, because u_d was required early on.
>
>> objecting to this, I think he was right (philosophically; I've no idea
>> about the practicality of alternate approaches).
>
> How else would you do controlled types?
Ada 9x originally had a bunch of magic attributes (similar to streaming). It
was very complex and got dumped in the dustbin during "scope reduction".
Later on, some of us were bemoaning that a critical feature (finalization)
had gotten lost in Ada 9x, and Tucker came up with the idea to build it on
top of tagged types as a massive simplification (at the loss of a bit of
power). People often complain that Ada finalization is complex, and it is,
except all of the alternatives are a lot more complex. :-)
Randy.
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-02 8:57 Adacore joins with Ferrous Systems to support Rust Paul Rubin
2022-02-02 13:04 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-02 15:29 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2022-02-02 16:36 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-04 17:51 ` Stephen Leake
2022-04-18 16:01 ` Rene
2022-02-02 20:07 ` G.B.
2022-02-03 23:29 ` John McCabe
2022-02-11 17:40 ` amo...@unizar.es
2022-02-11 19:24 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-12 17:34 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2022-02-12 5:22 ` John Perry
2022-02-12 10:08 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2022-02-12 18:24 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2022-02-13 8:10 ` J-P. Rosen
2022-02-14 23:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-15 4:29 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-12 23:59 ` John Perry
2022-02-18 13:24 ` Kevin Chadwick
2022-02-02 20:06 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03 1:34 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-03 2:20 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03 2:52 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-03 4:22 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03 9:54 ` Björn Lundin
2022-02-04 3:38 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-04 5:19 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-03 11:30 ` Simon Wright
2022-02-03 12:51 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-04 3:20 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2022-02-04 10:28 ` Luke A. Guest
2022-02-04 17:51 ` Andreas ZEURCHER
2022-02-05 4:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-02-02 16:19 ` Stephen Leake
2022-02-02 18:48 ` Gautier write-only address
2022-02-02 20:03 ` Paul Rubin
2022-02-02 20:45 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2022-02-12 4:42 ` 25.BZ943
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