From: anon@anon.org (anon)
Subject: Re: unsigned type
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:04:36 GMT
Date: 2009-07-02T19:04:36+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8x73m.415010$4m1.171425@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 273dedb7-8d68-42d2-8602-aa44c79f3708@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com
Adam.
RM 3.6.1 ( 17..18 ) proves your point about strings with subscripts of ( 1..0 ).
But it kinds of flys in the face of RM 0 ( 29 ) [ see below ]. Since we must use the keyword "reverse" to transverse a loop index
in deceasing order, it would seam logical that ( 1 .. 0 ) or S ( S'First .. ( S'First - 1 ) )
should be illegal for Strings because the 0 is not within the range of the
predefined type Positive. But a String with length greater than 1 the we could
use: S ( ( S'First + 1 ) .. S'First ) => S ( 2 ..1 ) would be legal because
both index values are legal subscripts and these values could be all the
way to S ( S'Last .. S'First ) to get a null array (String).
Note : Around line 291 of RM 95 Text version
RM 0. (29)
29 Execution of a program unit may encounter error situations in which
normal program execution cannot continue. For example, an arithmetic
computation may exceed the maximum allowed value of a number, or an attempt
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
may be made to access an array component by using an incorrect index value.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
To deal with such error situations, the statements of a program unit can be
textually followed by exception handlers that specify the actions to be taken
when the error situation arises. Exceptions can be raised explicitly by a
raise statement.
In <273dedb7-8d68-42d2-8602-aa44c79f3708@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Adam Beneschan <adam@irvine.com> writes:
>On Jun 30, 4:48=A0pm, a...@anon.org (anon) wrote:
>> Read RM 3.5 =A0( 4 )
>>
>> Is "A ( 0 .. 0 )" an example of null range. =A0By the definition in RM 3.=
>5
>> ( 4 ), the Right side range (index) must be less than the Left side, so
>> "A ( 0.. 0 )" is not a valid null range statement. So, this statement
>> should generate a compiler or runtime error, because either range is not
>> a subset of the range for Strings.
>
>OK, I think I've finally figured out why we're having this confusing
>argument. It goes way back to this post of yours:
>
>>> For Strings:
>>> -- 'A' is a zero length string, A'Last =3D 0, =
>and
>>> -- put_line ( A ( A'First .. A'Last ) ) ;
>>> -- does not raise an Constraint_Error even tho=
>ugh in
>>> -- this case it translate to:
>>> -- put_line ( A ( 0 .. 0 ) ) ;
>>> A : String :=3D "" ;
>
>It does not translate to A (0..0); it translates to A (1..0). If A is
>declared as in your example above, A'First will be 1 and A'Last will
>be 0. Try it (try declaring A like that and outputting A'First and
>A'Last). It looks like everyone else missed this original error of
>yours, which has apparently led to some confusion.
>
>In this case, A'First..A'Last, which is 1..0, is compatible with the
>subtype because it's a null range, and null ranges are compatible with
>the subtype even when the range bounds don't actually belong to the
>subtype. 0..0 is not compatible with the subtype, but you cannot
>declare a string with that index range unless you try to do it
>explicitly:
>
> A : String (0..0);
>
>and then you *will* get a Constraint_Error.
>
>So your later assertion that follows:
>
>>> Since you can have zero length string , the index is Natual instead of P=
>ositive,
>>> because zero is in Natural but is not define in Positive. Even though th=
>e
>>> Standard package define String index as a Positive type. (GNAT)
>
>is wrong. The index range is Positive, but null ranges don't have to
>meet that constraint. They don't have to be Natural, either. This is
>legal and will not raise an exception at runtime:
>
> B : String (-9 .. -10) :=3D "";
>
>Hope this clears everything up.
>
> -- Adam
>
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2009-06-28 15:36 unsigned type Rob Solomon
2009-06-28 15:45 ` Florian Weimer
2009-06-28 15:48 ` Albrecht Käfer
2009-06-28 17:56 ` anon
2009-06-28 19:17 ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-28 23:08 ` anon
2009-06-29 0:19 ` tmoran
2009-06-29 8:00 ` anon
2009-06-29 9:56 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-06-29 10:21 ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-29 11:23 ` sjw
2009-06-29 12:07 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-06-29 20:06 ` anon
2009-06-29 19:31 ` anon
2009-06-29 21:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
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2009-06-30 11:29 ` anon
2009-06-30 12:19 ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-29 20:19 ` anon
2009-06-29 20:41 ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-29 22:15 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-29 23:08 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-06-29 23:11 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-06-30 12:39 ` Martin
2009-06-29 10:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-29 20:02 ` anon
2009-06-29 22:08 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-30 23:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-30 13:46 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-06-30 15:22 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-06-30 15:59 ` Albrecht Käfer
2009-06-30 16:59 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-06-30 17:44 ` Albrecht Käfer
2009-06-30 18:13 ` Robert A Duff
2009-06-30 18:16 ` Albrecht Käfer
2009-06-30 23:48 ` anon
2009-07-01 1:39 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-07-02 19:04 ` anon [this message]
2009-07-02 19:49 ` anon
2009-07-02 21:37 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-07-03 1:42 ` anon
2009-07-03 2:10 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-07-03 7:07 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-07-03 20:53 ` anon
2009-07-03 21:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-07-04 9:09 ` anon
2009-07-04 13:43 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-07-06 9:04 ` AdaMagica
2009-07-03 21:46 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-07-04 12:39 ` Martin
2009-07-01 8:09 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-07-01 15:08 ` Albrecht Käfer
2009-07-11 14:40 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-07-11 17:18 ` sjw
2009-07-11 18:15 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-07-11 20:20 ` anon
2009-07-12 17:57 ` Samuel Tardieu
2009-07-12 18:24 ` AdaMagica
2009-07-13 22:03 ` anon
2009-07-14 7:58 ` Martin
2009-07-16 13:54 ` anon
2009-07-16 14:41 ` Martin
2009-07-16 15:12 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-07-11 14:43 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-07-11 15:22 ` Albrecht Käfer
2009-06-29 8:42 ` Martin
2009-06-29 8:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-29 10:10 ` Martin
2009-06-29 12:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-29 19:26 ` anon
2009-06-29 23:02 ` Martin
2009-06-29 19:47 ` anon
2009-06-30 8:31 ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-28 19:54 ` tmoran
2009-06-28 22:34 ` Gary Scott
2009-06-28 23:15 ` John B. Matthews
2009-06-28 23:21 ` anon
2009-06-29 7:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-29 9:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-29 12:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-29 13:36 ` Rob Solomon
2009-06-29 14:03 ` Robert A Duff
2009-06-29 14:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-29 14:18 ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-29 15:40 ` Robert A Duff
2009-07-03 1:41 ` Rob Solomon
2009-07-03 7:12 ` Learning Ada (Was: unsigned type) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2009-07-03 8:38 ` Learning Ada Peter Hermann
2009-07-03 9:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-07-03 22:20 ` Learning Ada (Was: unsigned type) anon
2009-07-04 14:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-07-05 23:21 ` anon
2009-07-06 0:05 ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-07-06 0:19 ` Learning Ada Albrecht Käfer
2009-07-06 2:50 ` anon
2009-07-06 6:18 ` AdaMagica
2009-07-06 7:47 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-07-06 20:21 ` anon
2009-07-06 21:08 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-07-06 22:43 ` Frank J. Lhota
2009-07-09 22:28 ` anon
2009-07-10 6:23 ` AdaMagica
2009-07-06 10:53 ` Learning Ada (Was: unsigned type) Georg Bauhaus
2009-07-06 19:34 ` anon
2009-07-06 20:29 ` Learning Ada Albrecht Käfer
2009-07-06 21:04 ` Learning Ada (Was: unsigned type) Georg Bauhaus
2009-07-07 19:25 ` sjw
2009-07-06 23:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-07-07 15:29 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-07-09 0:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-07-09 15:26 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-06-29 15:37 ` unsigned type Adam Beneschan
2009-07-06 20:20 ` Dave
2009-06-29 16:51 ` Martin Krischik
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