From: vincent.diemunsch@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Everything You Know Is Wrong
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 07:31:13 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2016-03-02T07:31:13-08:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb6d609c-82c5-45b5-b05f-ed673d389786@googlegroups.com> (raw)
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Le mercredi 2 mars 2016 15:33:18 UTC+1, Dmitry A. Kazakov a écrit :
>
> IEEE model is wrong and Ada 83 model is right being closer to the interval computations.
Could you elaborate or give me a link to papers ?
>
> BTW, it is advisable to always turn the IEEE semantics off. E.g. not to
> use Float but
>
> subtype Proper_Float is Float range Float'Range;
>
> instead. This saves a lot of debugging later.
Why is the IEEE semantics involved if the Ada model doesn't follow IEEE model ?
And what is the difference between the Proper_Float and the Float ?
>
> From the computational, rounding error control, engineering, etc POVs
> there is no reason to suggest that (x/y)*y=x should hold for
> floating-point numbers. They are not reals and cannot be reals. The
> model must sacrifice some less important properties like (x/y)*y=x
> (which is wrong for any measured values anyway) for more important ones
> like rounding errors control, performance, optimization.
I can accept this. The sensible point for me is to be able to prove un upper bound to rounding errors.
Regards,
Vincent
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-27 0:37 Everything You Know Is Wrong Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-12-27 7:55 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-12-27 17:37 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-12-27 8:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-27 17:36 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-01-04 14:44 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2015-12-28 9:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-12-28 11:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-28 16:27 ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2015-12-28 17:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-28 18:50 ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2015-12-28 20:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 11:42 ` G.B.
2015-12-29 12:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 13:50 ` G.B.
2015-12-29 14:06 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-12-29 14:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 16:31 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-12-29 17:02 ` G.B.
2015-12-29 16:57 ` G.B.
2015-12-29 17:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 17:53 ` G.B.
2015-12-29 18:09 ` G.B.
2015-12-29 22:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-01-04 14:51 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2015-12-29 21:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-12-28 17:19 ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2015-12-29 23:37 ` darkestkhan
2016-01-05 13:52 ` brbarkstrom
2016-01-10 14:46 ` Michael Erdmann
2016-02-29 12:14 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2016-03-02 14:11 ` vincent.diemunsch
2016-03-02 14:23 ` J-P. Rosen
2016-03-02 15:44 ` Bob Brown
2016-03-02 16:30 ` J-P. Rosen
2016-03-02 16:36 ` Bob Brown
2016-03-02 16:52 ` Bob Brown
2016-03-02 14:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-02 15:31 ` vincent.diemunsch [this message]
2016-02-29 12:27 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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