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From: vincent.diemunsch@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Everything You Know Is Wrong
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 07:31:13 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2016-03-02T07:31:13-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb6d609c-82c5-45b5-b05f-ed673d389786@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nb6tja$g55$1@gioia.aioe.org>

Le mercredi 2 mars 2016 15:33:18 UTC+1, Dmitry A. Kazakov a écrit :
> 
> IEEE model is wrong and Ada 83 model is right being closer to the interval computations.

Could you elaborate or give me a link to papers ?

> 
> BTW, it is advisable to always turn the IEEE semantics off. E.g. not to 
> use Float but
> 
>     subtype Proper_Float is Float range Float'Range;
> 
> instead. This saves a lot of debugging later.

Why is the IEEE semantics involved if the Ada model doesn't follow IEEE model ?
And what is the difference between the Proper_Float and the Float ?

> 
>  From the computational, rounding error control, engineering, etc POVs 
> there is no reason to suggest that (x/y)*y=x should hold for 
> floating-point numbers. They are not reals and cannot be reals. The 
> model must sacrifice some less important properties like (x/y)*y=x 
> (which is wrong for any measured values anyway) for more important ones 
> like rounding errors control, performance, optimization.

I can accept this. The sensible point for me is to be able to prove un upper bound to rounding errors.

Regards,

Vincent

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-02 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-27  0:37 Everything You Know Is Wrong Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-12-27  7:55 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-12-27 17:37   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-12-27  8:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-27 17:36   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-01-04 14:44     ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2015-12-28  9:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-12-28 11:19   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-28 16:27     ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2015-12-28 17:30       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-28 18:50         ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2015-12-28 20:40           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 11:42             ` G.B.
2015-12-29 12:36               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 13:50                 ` G.B.
2015-12-29 14:06                   ` J-P. Rosen
2015-12-29 14:16                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 16:31                     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-12-29 17:02                       ` G.B.
2015-12-29 16:57                     ` G.B.
2015-12-29 17:36                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 17:53                         ` G.B.
2015-12-29 18:09                           ` G.B.
2015-12-29 22:05                           ` Randy Brukardt
2016-01-04 14:51                           ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2015-12-29 21:58                         ` Randy Brukardt
2015-12-28 17:19 ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2015-12-29 23:37 ` darkestkhan
2016-01-05 13:52 ` brbarkstrom
2016-01-10 14:46 ` Michael Erdmann
2016-02-29 12:14 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2016-03-02 14:11   ` vincent.diemunsch
2016-03-02 14:23     ` J-P. Rosen
2016-03-02 15:44       ` Bob Brown
2016-03-02 16:30         ` J-P. Rosen
2016-03-02 16:36           ` Bob Brown
2016-03-02 16:52             ` Bob Brown
2016-03-02 14:32     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-02 15:31       ` vincent.diemunsch [this message]
2016-02-29 12:27 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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