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From: "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr>
Subject: Re: Everything You Know Is Wrong
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:23:08 +0100
Date: 2016-03-02T15:23:08+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nb6sqp$tti$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9974be39-f94d-4293-819e-bd1c9a1ddd65@googlegroups.com>

Le 02/03/2016 15:11, vincent.diemunsch@gmail.com a écrit :
> Here is the point about Ada : 
> 
> Remarkably enough, some languages don't clearly specify that if x is a
> floating-point variable (with say a value of 3.0/10.0), then every occurrence
> of (say) 10.0*x must have the same value. For example Ada, which is based
> on Brown's model, seems to imply that floating-point arithmetic only has to
> satisfy Brown's axioms, and thus expressions can have one of many possible
> values. Thinking about floating-point in this fuzzy way stands in sharp
> contrast to the IEEE model, where the result of each floating-point operation is
> precisely defined. In the IEEE model, we can prove that (3.0/10.0)*10.0
> evaluates to 3 (Theorem 7). In Brown's model, we cannot.
> 
> Maybe this could be a topic for a new revision of Ada ?

This was a deliberate decision, to make Ada compatible with various
floating point models. Many (most? all?) number crunching machines do
not have IEEE arithmetic, and there has been famous papers claiming that
Java requiring IEEE arithmetic was a huge mistake.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-02 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-27  0:37 Everything You Know Is Wrong Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-12-27  7:55 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-12-27 17:37   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-12-27  8:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-27 17:36   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-01-04 14:44     ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2015-12-28  9:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-12-28 11:19   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-28 16:27     ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2015-12-28 17:30       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-28 18:50         ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2015-12-28 20:40           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 11:42             ` G.B.
2015-12-29 12:36               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 13:50                 ` G.B.
2015-12-29 14:06                   ` J-P. Rosen
2015-12-29 14:16                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 16:31                     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-12-29 17:02                       ` G.B.
2015-12-29 16:57                     ` G.B.
2015-12-29 17:36                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-12-29 17:53                         ` G.B.
2015-12-29 18:09                           ` G.B.
2015-12-29 22:05                           ` Randy Brukardt
2016-01-04 14:51                           ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2015-12-29 21:58                         ` Randy Brukardt
2015-12-28 17:19 ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2015-12-29 23:37 ` darkestkhan
2016-01-05 13:52 ` brbarkstrom
2016-01-10 14:46 ` Michael Erdmann
2016-02-29 12:14 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2016-03-02 14:11   ` vincent.diemunsch
2016-03-02 14:23     ` J-P. Rosen [this message]
2016-03-02 15:44       ` Bob Brown
2016-03-02 16:30         ` J-P. Rosen
2016-03-02 16:36           ` Bob Brown
2016-03-02 16:52             ` Bob Brown
2016-03-02 14:32     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-02 15:31       ` vincent.diemunsch
2016-02-29 12:27 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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