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From: jcb@inf.ed.ac.uk (Julian Bradfield)
Subject: Re: decimal separator (international?
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:29:49 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2004-10-29T15:29:49+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cltnld$5jc$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mq2a52-b29.ln1@news.naggum.no

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In article <mq2a52-b29.ln1@news.naggum.no>,
Erik Naggum  <erik@naggum.no> wrote:

>Excuse me for being precise, but a statement that pretends to be true 
>always but is actually only true some of the time, is entirely false: It 

Depends on your notion of truth. The statement "birds are flying
creatures with two feathered wings" has a number of well-known
exceptions, but is nonetheless true for useful meanings of "true".

In any question of linguistic usage, taking a two-valued definition of
truth is just pointless. Clearly "in computing, giga = 2^30" is not
maximally true; but it's not plain false, if one takes plain false to
mean the minimal truth value. (You weren't precise about what you
meant by "plain", so I took the meaning that seemed most plausible.)

>is /not/ true that �in computing�, giga = 2^30. The simple fact that a 
>lot of uses of �giga� in computing are 10^9, invalidates the statement 
>and its broad claim.

Only if you think the broad claim was one of absolute maximal truth,
which I don't.
I might note that the specific counter example I gave is
contentious: many people think that giga means (or should mean) gibi
in disk capacities, and that manufacturers only use giga means giga in
order to inflate their capacities. 



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-29 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <dc7de4ff.0410171805.727ff73b@posting.google.com>
     [not found] ` <d4a75c1f.0410211229.263f74c9@posting.google.com>
2004-10-22 10:20   ` decimal separator (international? Peter Hermann
2004-10-22 13:18     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-10-22 16:20       ` Erik Naggum
2004-10-22 19:29         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-10-22 20:45           ` Erik Naggum
2004-10-23 18:54       ` Chris Kaese
2004-10-25 10:16         ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-10-29  9:52       ` Stefan L�rchner
2004-10-29  9:59         ` Adrien Plisson
2004-10-29 10:23         ` Julian Bradfield
2004-10-29 11:22           ` Markus Kuhn
2004-10-29 12:41             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-29 13:43               ` Erik Naggum
2004-10-29 13:55                 ` Julian Bradfield
2004-10-29 15:05                   ` Erik Naggum
2004-10-29 15:29                     ` Julian Bradfield [this message]
2004-10-30 12:15                     ` Binary prefixes in Google's calculator Markus Kuhn
2004-10-30 14:23                       ` Binary prefixes and decimal separators " Björn Persson
2004-10-29 12:58             ` decimal separator (international? Peter Hermann
2004-10-29 14:41               ` Björn Persson
2004-10-29 15:15                 ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-10-29 15:48                   ` Peter Hermann
2004-10-29 16:31                     ` Frank J. Lhota
2004-10-29 19:18                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-11-01 10:14                     ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-11-01 18:53                       ` Octal number system Andrew Nowicki
2004-11-01 21:47                         ` Björn Persson
2004-11-02  1:04                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-29 16:09                   ` decimal separator (international? Andreas Prilop
2004-10-30  9:46                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-29 14:21             ` Gee Pee (was: decimal separator (international?) Christoph Paeper
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