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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@acm.org>
To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org
Subject: Re: CVS front-ends
Date: 16 Oct 2004 09:22:29 -0400
Date: 2004-10-16T09:22:29-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.3.1097932983.10401.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097894208.513443@yasure>

Benjamin Ketcham <bketcham@drizzle.com> writes:

> Ludovic Brenta <ludovic.brenta@insalien.org> wrote:
> > Stephen Leake writes:
> >> If Meta-CVS is a purely client tool, then each developer can use it
> >> or not; it doesn't have to be a project-wide choice.
> > 
> > Yes, it has to be project-wide.  The way Meta-CVS works is this:
> 
> Oh goody, more layers.
> Shouldn't it really be called "Meta-Meta-RCS"?
> 
> > - every file in your source tree gets a unique ID
> > 
> > - every file is stored in the root directory of the module in the CVS
> >  server under that ID
> > 
> > - a separate text file establishes the mapping between the unique IDs
> >  and the path name of each file
> [...]
> 
> Seems eerily reminiscent of Win32 "long filenames"....

Yes.

> Don't get me wrong, I think CVS is a half-baked hack with some
> amazing oversights and omissions. 

Ok.

> (And is the documentation situation still as frustrating?) 

I find the documentation adequate.

> Still, it's the de facto standard half-baked hack, and by now all
> the build-managers have written their own personal versions of the
> scripts necessary to automate the common operations that CVS
> overlooks or makes needlessly tedious/counterintuitive. 

Yes. That is the CVS philosophy; provide basic features, let people
write higher level tools that fit their process.

> This "Meta-CVS" would seem much more appealing if it *were* purely
> client-side; has anyone attempted CVS improvements that way (I mean
> more than just GUI front ends)?

I've written some small extensions to Emacs pcl-cvs (aka pcvs). In
particular, I have one function called cvs-dtrt, for "do the right
thing" :). Given the pcl-cvs display, it invokes the appropriate
action for the file under the cursor, or prompts the user if there is
more than one.

A minor function, but quite a productivity boost.

See http://www.toadmail.com/~ada_wizard/

-- 
-- Stephe




  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-16 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-23  1:44 GWindows and David Botton Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-09-23  2:51 ` stephane richard
2004-09-24  1:08   ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-24  1:14     ` stephane richard
2004-09-24 16:26     ` Matthew Heaney
2004-09-25 12:19       ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-26 13:22       ` Craig Carey
2004-09-24  0:35 ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-24  3:38   ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-24  5:41     ` Martin Dowie
2004-09-24 10:37     ` stephane richard
2004-09-25 12:06       ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-27 20:59         ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-28 17:47           ` Pascal Obry
2004-09-28 18:25             ` stephane richard
2004-10-03 17:04               ` David Botton
2004-10-03 16:32         ` David Botton
2004-10-03 17:59           ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-03 19:32             ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-03 20:21               ` Jerry van Dijk
2004-10-04 19:13               ` tmoran
2004-10-05  0:54                 ` David Botton
2004-10-05  1:23                   ` David Botton
2004-10-05  1:27                   ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-05  3:39                     ` David Botton
2004-10-05 23:20                   ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-03 19:24           ` Jerry van Dijk
2004-10-04  2:06           ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-04 13:23             ` David Botton
2004-10-04 13:43             ` David Botton
2004-09-24 17:00     ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-24  5:45   ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-09-24 22:14     ` String handling and character encodings Björn Persson
2004-09-25 12:01     ` GWindows and David Botton Stephen Leake
2004-09-26 16:21       ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-10-03 16:37         ` David Botton
2004-09-26 21:57     ` Stephen McNeill
2004-09-26 22:08       ` tmoran
2004-09-27  6:13       ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-09-27  7:30         ` GWindows license (Was: GWindows and David Botton) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-09-27 12:31         ` GWindows and David Botton Georg Bauhaus
2004-09-27 21:23           ` Stephen McNeill
2004-10-03 16:40         ` David Botton
2004-10-04  1:57           ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-04 13:31             ` David Botton
2004-10-05  0:54               ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-05 15:39                 ` David Botton
2004-10-05 19:44                   ` tmoran
2004-10-05 21:33                     ` David Botton
2004-10-05 22:13                       ` stephane richard
2004-10-06 21:17                       ` tmoran
2004-10-05 22:40                   ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-05 23:28                     ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-06  3:50                       ` David Botton
2004-10-06  3:46                     ` David Botton
     [not found]           ` <ullenfdo8.fsf@acm.org>
2004-10-04 12:46             ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-04 23:13               ` Brian May
2004-10-04 23:45                 ` stephane richard
2004-10-05 17:52                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-05 18:08                     ` Chris Humphries
2004-10-05 18:24                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-05 19:07                         ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-05 20:27                           ` SourceForge, CVS and revision control systems (was: GWindows and David Botton) Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-05 20:54                             ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-05 22:43                         ` GWindows and David Botton Stephen Leake
2004-10-07 18:49                           ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-16  2:36                             ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-10-16 13:22                               ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2004-10-16 14:33                                 ` CVS front-ends Matthew Heaney
2004-10-16 15:07                                   ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-16 15:56                                     ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-16 16:37                                       ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-19  2:48                           ` GWindows and David Botton Kaz Kylheku
2004-10-05  0:48                 ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-05  7:42                   ` Brian May
2004-10-05 22:16                     ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-06  8:48                       ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-06 18:56                         ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 20:07                           ` David Botton
2004-10-06 20:18                             ` David Botton
2004-10-06 21:25                               ` tmoran
2004-10-09  9:49                           ` Jerry van Dijk
2004-10-07  0:22                         ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-08  0:28                       ` Brian May
2004-10-06 20:08                   ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-10-08  0:36                     ` Brian May
2004-09-24 18:58   ` Pascal Obry
2004-09-24 20:14     ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-24 20:48       ` tmoran
2004-09-24 22:20       ` GTK Björn Persson
2004-09-24 22:22       ` GWindows and David Botton Georg Bauhaus
2004-09-25  2:34       ` Jeff C r e e.m
2004-09-25  6:03       ` Pascal Obry
2004-09-25 10:42         ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-25 11:38           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-09-25 13:11           ` Ed Falis
2004-09-25 15:59             ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-09-25 18:15               ` Ed Falis
     [not found]         ` <41554B8F.6040401@netcabo.pt>
2004-09-25 12:49           ` Stephen Leake
     [not found]           ` <uekkqfr96.fsf@acm.org>
2004-09-25 13:05             ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-25 11:46       ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-09-25 12:43     ` GtkAda vs Windex, Gwindows Stephen Leake
2004-10-04 17:11       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-04 21:11         ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-05 16:38           ` GtkAda Package Hierarchy (was ...vs Windex, Gwindows) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-05 16:56         ` GtkAda vs Windex, Gwindows Stephane Riviere
2004-10-05 17:09           ` stephane richard
2004-10-05 20:42             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-03 16:18     ` GWindows and David Botton David Botton
2004-10-03 16:03   ` David Botton
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