Re: GWindows and David Botton

[David Botton <david@botton.com>]

For a small list of differences see: 
http://www.adapower.com/gwindows/GWindowsVsClaw.html

Although my point is, a superset of design and functionality, yes. 
There may be individual APIs here and there in areas where CLAW has 
more or GWindows has more, but the key is that GWindows is  more than a 
binding while still being as close to the API as a binding with out 
losing ease of use and understandability.

I would say that GWindows is to CLAW what Borland's VCL is to MFC.

The only thing is that CLAW is far away from being as complete as MFC 
while GWindows is just about on par with VCL of at least Delphi 3.

My point is that GWindows as an MGPL project from the start and as such 
was, is and will be alive regardless. In fact any work going in to a 
new project or versions of CLAW released as MGPL become good grounds 
for its growth. If CLAW becomes completely MGPL the same can be said 
about it as well in relationship to GWindows.

The question is, is it worth:

Creating yet another competing framework (I am sure that CLAW is not 
going to disappear either)
Negotiating to get as much of CLAW in to the MPGL space as possible 
when RR may not be ready yet to support an alternative financial model
Starting with CLAW and then having to go through the sources to recode 
for UNICODE support and other important features needed to support the 
advancement of windows beyond Windows 9X/ME
Redoing the creation thread of CLAW for COM/DCOM/ActiveX/.NET
etc.

GWindows is a more sound place to start as a code base and CLAW 
certainly has very much what to add.

As for the MGPL version of CLAW not being a subset, if any of the 
GWindows users needed what was there we would have incorporated it 
already (some may have in their own projects :-) I have seen a few 
loose APIs I may borrow from there in the future for the GWindows base, 
just haven't had a time or need yet.

David Botton



On 2004-10-05 15:44:33 -0400, tmoran@acm.org said:

>> * GWindows for the most part (but not all) is already a _superset_ of
>> CLAW both in design and functionality
>   I know it's a political season and we're all used to ads stretching the
> truth, but this is ridiculous.  GWindows is not a _superset_ of even the
> currently GMGPLed Introductory version of Claw, let alone the full version.