From: "Robert C. Leif" <rleif@rleif.com>
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>
Subject: Re: GWindows and David Botton
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:39:28 -0700
Date: 2004-09-27T23:39:28-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.119.1096353592.390.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org> (raw)
Although CLAW is the only package that is able to hide most of
Windows' complexity and ugliness, continued development of it for the
Windows GUI is a poor long-term bet. One of the major advantages of CLAW is
that it is a thick binding. Since Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) XML
Graphics for the Web (http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/) and XForms
(http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/) provide the infrastructure for a GUI, why
not interface to them and have a truly portable standard GUI. The XML
documents (code) required to be generated should be of about the same
complexity as a Windows Resource file. There is the extra benefit that this
product should interface with the next version of OpenOffice
(http://www.openoffice.org/). The OpenOffice schema are much more readable
that those for Microsoft Office and appear to be based on W3C standards,
such as SVG and XSL:fo.
OpenOffice "Mission Statement"
"To create, as a community, the leading international office suite
that will run on all major platforms and provide access to all functionality
and data through open-component based APIs and an XML-based file format."
Bob Leif
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Date: 27 Sep 2004 14:23:13 -0700
From: mcneills@landcareresearch.co.nz (Stephen McNeill)
Subject: Re: GWindows and David Botton
To: comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org
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Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> wrote in message
news:<cj916q$8as$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>...
> I hope that Randy Brukardt's and Tom Moran's respective offers
(making
> the rest of CLAW GMGPLed, which, if I understand correctly, will
include
> the media packages) are not deliberately ignored?
>
> Or is there some technical profit in not co-ordinating efforts?
> I guess Ada vendors have customer who do already use CLAW. Will
> they be attracted to another great effort likely to be very similar
> to CLAW, and abandon a supported product (CLAW) that already meets
> their needs?
> What kind of support can they expect?
>
> Conversly, imagine that for a Windows bindings project you had
> - RR Software's experience in building Windows bindings
> - CLAW customers' interest in the project if based on CLAW
> - and possibly other vendors' (and customers') interest in an
> alternative high level Ada binding.
>
>
> -- Georg
Georg, that is a fair point. That is one of the reasons why (in a
message a few weeks ago I think) I asked whether it was important to
continue working with GWindows, or alternatively give it a decent
burial. If the consensus is to stand in behind CLAW, then provided
there is some general assurance that it is likely to survive, with a
basic cost that is generally acceptable to a reasonable range of
users, then I shall stand in line to offer help.
Stephen
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2004-09-28 6:56 ` GWindows and David Botton tmoran
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2004-10-06 4:19 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
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2004-09-25 12:06 ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-27 20:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-28 17:47 ` Pascal Obry
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2004-10-03 17:04 ` David Botton
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2004-10-03 19:32 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-03 20:21 ` Jerry van Dijk
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2004-09-25 12:01 ` Stephen Leake
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2004-10-03 16:37 ` David Botton
2004-09-26 21:57 ` Stephen McNeill
2004-09-26 22:08 ` tmoran
2004-09-27 6:13 ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-09-27 12:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-09-27 21:23 ` Stephen McNeill
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2004-10-06 21:17 ` tmoran
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2004-10-05 23:28 ` Randy Brukardt
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2004-10-05 22:16 ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-06 8:48 ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-06 18:56 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 20:07 ` David Botton
2004-10-06 20:18 ` David Botton
2004-10-06 21:25 ` tmoran
2004-10-09 9:49 ` Jerry van Dijk
2004-10-07 0:22 ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-08 0:28 ` Brian May
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2004-09-24 18:58 ` Pascal Obry
2004-09-24 20:14 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-24 20:48 ` tmoran
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2004-09-25 11:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
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