From: Benjamin Ketcham <bketcham@drizzle.com>
Subject: Re: Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:22:53 -0000
Date: 2004-09-23T22:22:53+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1095978171.340824@yasure> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.63.1095891612.390.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org
Marius Amado Alves <amado.alves@netcabo.pt> wrote:
>>>Yes, and better yet, IMO, would be more advanced systems,
>>>distributed systems e.g. Plan 9 or Unununium, or real time systems
>>>e.g. VxWorks (is there a port to stock PCs already?), or a
>>>combination, because c'mon, the Linux kernel sucks eggs.
A "more advanced" system would only be of interest in *this* context,
if it is widely used (or has the realistic potential to become
widely used).
>> VxWorks has its place, sure, and if you were developing eg a set-top
>> box it might be the right thing. Even there people are using embedded
>> Linux for preference.
>
> Doesn't a set-top require real time? RTLinux?
>
>> Pretty sure you can get VxWorks off the shelf for stock PCs...
>
> Cool, maybe I'll try some day. I'm pretty fed up with Windows and Linux.
>
>> Not sure whether sucking eggs is (in your view) good or bad?
>
> Bad. No real time. Not distributed. Monolithic. (Sorry I though sucking
> eggs was universally bad :-)
I think "monolithic" is debatable, in terms of being a disadvantage.
Linus and others have made reasonable-sounding arguments for the
benefits of a monolithic design. It is certainly a considered choice.
Witness the Windows NT kernel: started out at least somewhat modular,
but then they had to fold performance-crucial aspects (such as
graphics) back into a monolithic kernel.
Distributed: what about Beowulf?
Real time: RTLinux, etc..
Again, my point is not to argue that Linux is some kind of great
OS without any flaws. Its greatest benefits IMO are that it's
free, and that it works *well enough*: i.e., a heck of a lot better
than Windows. If something comes along that works a heck of a lot
better than Linux, then that will be of interest.
--Benjamin
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-16 23:57 Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada Jim Gurtner
2004-09-17 0:28 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-17 1:16 ` Jim Gurtner
2004-09-17 23:08 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-18 0:26 ` stephane richard
2004-09-18 0:57 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-20 0:23 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-20 2:11 ` stephane richard
2004-09-20 14:05 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-20 20:55 ` stephane richard
2004-09-20 22:06 ` Björn Persson
2004-09-21 0:38 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-21 2:44 ` stephane richard
2004-09-21 11:48 ` Björn Persson
2004-09-21 18:08 ` Martin Krischik
2004-09-21 1:07 ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-21 16:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-21 19:12 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-21 19:49 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-09-22 0:50 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22 10:08 ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-09-22 13:04 ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-22 13:52 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-22 20:59 ` Simon Wright
2004-09-22 22:19 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-23 19:12 ` Simon Wright
2004-09-23 22:22 ` Benjamin Ketcham [this message]
2004-09-22 23:06 ` Björn Persson
2004-09-22 16:56 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-22 17:36 ` Pascal Obry
2004-09-23 10:34 ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-09-21 20:34 ` Tom
2004-09-21 22:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-09-22 6:20 ` Tom
2004-09-22 7:48 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-09-22 20:28 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-09-22 23:15 ` Björn Persson
2004-09-23 22:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-22 9:21 ` Ada and malicious software Björn Persson
2004-09-22 16:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-23 7:33 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-09-22 0:56 ` Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22 2:43 ` stephane richard
2004-09-22 9:24 ` Peter Hermann
2004-09-23 22:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-24 3:21 ` CBFalconer
2004-09-26 11:02 ` Tom
2004-09-17 2:10 ` Steve
2004-09-17 4:30 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-17 23:58 ` Christopher Browne
2004-09-18 1:01 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-18 3:50 ` Christopher Browne
2004-09-18 11:22 ` Simon Wright
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2004-09-17 6:10 Christoph Karl Walter Grein
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