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From: "stephane richard" <stephane.richard@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:26:36 GMT
Date: 2004-09-18T00:26:36+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0hL2d.762$QB1.501@trndny02> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 414B6E62.9070402@acm.org

"Cesar Rabak" <crabak@acm.org> wrote in message 
news:414B6E62.9070402@acm.org...
> Larry Kilgallen escreveu:
>>
> If management allow them to use it in the actual project!
>
> --
> Cesar Rabak
>

Indeed, but what I don't understand is:

1. How and why is it so hard to make them understand that C or C++ are not 
necessarily the solution to their problem simply because of it's popularity. 
Sure, back then, anyone that would have given any language away would have 
made it popular (BASIC comes to mind ;-).

2. I think that if any manager or any other person capable of making a 
"which language" to use decision, if they took 5 minutes to do proper 
searches, would see the "real" benefits of using ada both as a programming 
language and as a "economical" solution for the lesser time to debug only.

3. The only thing stopping them, in my book is none of the above.  The 
availability of Ada developers just isn't as big as the "popular" languages.

4. It seems that people have the wrong conception of "development tools" as 
well.  In essence, if it don't operate like microsoft's visual studio IDEs 
it ain't good.  Big mistake to make that assumption.  Sure microsoft IDE's 
aren't all that bad.  But in my opinion, they sure could be better both in 
features and integration with compilers/linkers etc.  GPS 2.XX (think it's 
00 but not sure) from Ada Core Technologies, anyone seen it in action?  From 
what I've heard, Microsoft can't even begin to compete with what GPS offers 
to the "whole" development process.

On a different note, I was happy to get an email yesterday from a student, 
new to Ada95 in West Washington University.  It's good to see american 
universities teaching Ada :-).






  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-18  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-16 23:57 Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada Jim Gurtner
2004-09-17  0:28 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-17  1:16   ` Jim Gurtner
2004-09-17 23:08   ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-18  0:26     ` stephane richard [this message]
2004-09-18  0:57       ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-20  0:23       ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-20  2:11         ` stephane richard
2004-09-20 14:05           ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-20 20:55             ` stephane richard
2004-09-20 22:06               ` Björn Persson
2004-09-21  0:38                 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-21  2:44                   ` stephane richard
2004-09-21 11:48                     ` Björn Persson
2004-09-21 18:08                       ` Martin Krischik
2004-09-21  1:07             ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-21 16:59               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-21 19:12                 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-21 19:49                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-09-22  0:50                     ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22 10:08                 ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-09-22 13:04                   ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-22 13:52                     ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-22 20:59                       ` Simon Wright
2004-09-22 22:19                         ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-23 19:12                           ` Simon Wright
2004-09-23 22:22                           ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-22 23:06                       ` Björn Persson
2004-09-22 16:56                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-22 17:36                       ` Pascal Obry
2004-09-23 10:34                     ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-09-21 20:34             ` Tom
2004-09-21 22:07               ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-09-22  6:20                 ` Tom
2004-09-22  7:48                   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-09-22 20:28                     ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-09-22 23:15                       ` Björn Persson
2004-09-23 22:19                         ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-22  9:21                   ` Ada and malicious software Björn Persson
2004-09-22 16:59                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-23  7:33                       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-09-22  0:56               ` Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22  2:43               ` stephane richard
2004-09-22  9:24                 ` Peter Hermann
2004-09-23 22:09               ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-24  3:21                 ` CBFalconer
2004-09-26 11:02                 ` Tom
2004-09-17  2:10 ` Steve
2004-09-17  4:30   ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-17 23:58 ` Christopher Browne
2004-09-18  1:01   ` Ed Falis
2004-09-18  3:50     ` Christopher Browne
2004-09-18 11:22   ` Simon Wright
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2004-09-17  6:10 Christoph Karl Walter Grein
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