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From: Cesar Rabak <crabak@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:56:59 -0300
Date: 2004-09-21T21:56:59-03:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4150CDDB.6080206@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 97de285c.0409211234.596b663a@posting.google.com

Tom escreveu:
> Cesar Rabak <crabak@acm.org> wrote in message news:<414EE3A0.9080106@acm.org>...
> 
>>stephane richard escreveu:
>> > "Cesar Rabak" <crabak@acm.org> wrote in message
>>[snipped]
>>
>>Second, academia (the three amigos on UML, for example) abandoned the
>>use of Ada in favor of C++ bringing a perceived vision of the "way to
>>go" for less technically oriented people. Now, let me ask you: if you go
>>to a newstand where fine IT magazines are sold what are the odds a
>>manager sees CUJ or VisualBasic or perhaps a .Net mag, and what are the
>>chances Ada is ever mentioned? And to finally blow the wollf dead most
>>of the 'Research' and 'Advisory' firms when mention Ada send the message
>>it is a 'niche' language or an 'ageing' technology not to be considered
>>for new developements. . .
>>
> 
> Where do you think that they might be getting that idea? 

For academia, I sincerely don't know, as the 'market forces' are 
somewhat different.

For commercial software, I think the major players are more interested 
in selling their propriatary languages, C++ being IMHO an exception, 
perhaps to fade away with the advent of C#.

> When I was
> doing a quick search for information on Ada I put "Ada compilers" in
> for the search term on google. I found a fair number of the most
> popular web sites were not updated in the last several years. It does

I've done the same research and unfortunately you are right. Also, a 
coleague of mine call my attention on the existance of a sort of 
guideline for writing open source where the language of choice is C (I'm 
looking for it, if I find something more exact, I post a pointer here).

> not distill a lot of confidence in a computer language when the so
> called enthusiasts can't even keep their web sites up to date.  If
> this was not bad enough one of the Windows compiler distributors did
> not even mention WindowsXP. The last operating system that they say
> works with their compiler is Win95.  Come on, if the enthusiasts can't
> stay up to date then what chance is there of convincing someone new to
> Ada that it is not 'ageing' technology.

I see.

--
Cesar Rabak




  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-22  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-16 23:57 Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada Jim Gurtner
2004-09-17  0:28 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-17  1:16   ` Jim Gurtner
2004-09-17 23:08   ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-18  0:26     ` stephane richard
2004-09-18  0:57       ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-20  0:23       ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-20  2:11         ` stephane richard
2004-09-20 14:05           ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-20 20:55             ` stephane richard
2004-09-20 22:06               ` Björn Persson
2004-09-21  0:38                 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-21  2:44                   ` stephane richard
2004-09-21 11:48                     ` Björn Persson
2004-09-21 18:08                       ` Martin Krischik
2004-09-21  1:07             ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-21 16:59               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-21 19:12                 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-21 19:49                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-09-22  0:50                     ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22 10:08                 ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-09-22 13:04                   ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-22 13:52                     ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-22 20:59                       ` Simon Wright
2004-09-22 22:19                         ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-23 19:12                           ` Simon Wright
2004-09-23 22:22                           ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-22 23:06                       ` Björn Persson
2004-09-22 16:56                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-22 17:36                       ` Pascal Obry
2004-09-23 10:34                     ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-09-21 20:34             ` Tom
2004-09-21 22:07               ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-09-22  6:20                 ` Tom
2004-09-22  7:48                   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-09-22 20:28                     ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-09-22 23:15                       ` Björn Persson
2004-09-23 22:19                         ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-22  9:21                   ` Ada and malicious software Björn Persson
2004-09-22 16:59                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-23  7:33                       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-09-22  0:56               ` Cesar Rabak [this message]
2004-09-22  2:43               ` Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada stephane richard
2004-09-22  9:24                 ` Peter Hermann
2004-09-23 22:09               ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-24  3:21                 ` CBFalconer
2004-09-26 11:02                 ` Tom
2004-09-17  2:10 ` Steve
2004-09-17  4:30   ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-17 23:58 ` Christopher Browne
2004-09-18  1:01   ` Ed Falis
2004-09-18  3:50     ` Christopher Browne
2004-09-18 11:22   ` Simon Wright
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2004-09-17  6:10 Christoph Karl Walter Grein
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