From: Cesar Rabak <crabak@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:56:59 -0300
Date: 2004-09-21T21:56:59-03:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4150CDDB.6080206@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 97de285c.0409211234.596b663a@posting.google.com
Tom escreveu:
> Cesar Rabak <crabak@acm.org> wrote in message news:<414EE3A0.9080106@acm.org>...
>
>>stephane richard escreveu:
>> > "Cesar Rabak" <crabak@acm.org> wrote in message
>>[snipped]
>>
>>Second, academia (the three amigos on UML, for example) abandoned the
>>use of Ada in favor of C++ bringing a perceived vision of the "way to
>>go" for less technically oriented people. Now, let me ask you: if you go
>>to a newstand where fine IT magazines are sold what are the odds a
>>manager sees CUJ or VisualBasic or perhaps a .Net mag, and what are the
>>chances Ada is ever mentioned? And to finally blow the wollf dead most
>>of the 'Research' and 'Advisory' firms when mention Ada send the message
>>it is a 'niche' language or an 'ageing' technology not to be considered
>>for new developements. . .
>>
>
> Where do you think that they might be getting that idea?
For academia, I sincerely don't know, as the 'market forces' are
somewhat different.
For commercial software, I think the major players are more interested
in selling their propriatary languages, C++ being IMHO an exception,
perhaps to fade away with the advent of C#.
> When I was
> doing a quick search for information on Ada I put "Ada compilers" in
> for the search term on google. I found a fair number of the most
> popular web sites were not updated in the last several years. It does
I've done the same research and unfortunately you are right. Also, a
coleague of mine call my attention on the existance of a sort of
guideline for writing open source where the language of choice is C (I'm
looking for it, if I find something more exact, I post a pointer here).
> not distill a lot of confidence in a computer language when the so
> called enthusiasts can't even keep their web sites up to date. If
> this was not bad enough one of the Windows compiler distributors did
> not even mention WindowsXP. The last operating system that they say
> works with their compiler is Win95. Come on, if the enthusiasts can't
> stay up to date then what chance is there of convincing someone new to
> Ada that it is not 'ageing' technology.
I see.
--
Cesar Rabak
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-16 23:57 Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada Jim Gurtner
2004-09-17 0:28 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-17 1:16 ` Jim Gurtner
2004-09-17 23:08 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-18 0:26 ` stephane richard
2004-09-18 0:57 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-20 0:23 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-20 2:11 ` stephane richard
2004-09-20 14:05 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-20 20:55 ` stephane richard
2004-09-20 22:06 ` Björn Persson
2004-09-21 0:38 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-21 2:44 ` stephane richard
2004-09-21 11:48 ` Björn Persson
2004-09-21 18:08 ` Martin Krischik
2004-09-21 1:07 ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-21 16:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-21 19:12 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-21 19:49 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-09-22 0:50 ` Cesar Rabak
2004-09-22 10:08 ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-09-22 13:04 ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-22 13:52 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-22 20:59 ` Simon Wright
2004-09-22 22:19 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-09-23 19:12 ` Simon Wright
2004-09-23 22:22 ` Benjamin Ketcham
2004-09-22 23:06 ` Björn Persson
2004-09-22 16:56 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-22 17:36 ` Pascal Obry
2004-09-23 10:34 ` Anders Wirzenius
2004-09-21 20:34 ` Tom
2004-09-21 22:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-09-22 6:20 ` Tom
2004-09-22 7:48 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-09-22 20:28 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-09-22 23:15 ` Björn Persson
2004-09-23 22:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-22 9:21 ` Ada and malicious software Björn Persson
2004-09-22 16:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-09-23 7:33 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-09-22 0:56 ` Cesar Rabak [this message]
2004-09-22 2:43 ` Embedded Keynote Speaker Mentions Ada stephane richard
2004-09-22 9:24 ` Peter Hermann
2004-09-23 22:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-09-24 3:21 ` CBFalconer
2004-09-26 11:02 ` Tom
2004-09-17 2:10 ` Steve
2004-09-17 4:30 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-09-17 23:58 ` Christopher Browne
2004-09-18 1:01 ` Ed Falis
2004-09-18 3:50 ` Christopher Browne
2004-09-18 11:22 ` Simon Wright
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2004-09-17 6:10 Christoph Karl Walter Grein
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