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From: "Dan'l Miller" <optikos@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Ada's ranking of popularity at IEEE Spectrum
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:53:09 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2014-07-27T20:53:09-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15b0a58a-4e62-4e10-9e20-b0a6afd71c6d@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d105e202-1c7d-4bde-8880-ca8ea8c81cc1@googlegroups.com>

On Sunday, July 27, 2014 3:19:40 PM UTC-5, sbelm...@gmail.com wrote:
> My point is that even 'good' APIs (like OpenSSL or OpenGL) inherently stink of untyped C, and it becomes
> a delicate balancing act of figuring out at what point you've failed to implement the spec everyone
> knows and instead succeeded at inventing a new (better) API that nobody wants.  Victor Porton's copious
> posts seem to suggest similar problems.

It does seem that the burning issue to solve in Ada202X is how to facilitate making thick bindings easier
1) to bring the Ada semantics to an Ada API that wraps a C (or subset of C++) API;
then
2) export that Ada API back out to C (and/or subset of C++) via a thin binding that imposes as much type safety as possible.

By dividing and conquering the C world (i.e., into 2 camps:  type-unsafe C APIs used by the unwashed masses versus type-safe C APIs used by superior intellects), Ada could prove itself valuable as an intermediate layer and win over converts to just program in Ada all the time.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-28  3:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-06 15:19 Ada's ranking of popularity at IEEE Spectrum Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 16:25 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-06 17:18   ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 18:03     ` Ludovic Brenta
2014-07-06 19:03       ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 19:41         ` Ludovic Brenta
2014-07-07  7:03         ` Tero Koskinen
2014-07-06 22:15     ` Brad Moore
2014-07-07 13:14       ` Peter Chapin
2014-07-07 14:27         ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-09 15:01         ` Brad Moore
2014-07-10  7:42           ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-07-10 13:56             ` Peter Chapin
2014-07-10 18:18             ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-10 18:30               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-11  4:55                 ` theanalogmachine
2014-07-11 11:56                 ` G.B.
2014-07-07  8:37     ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-06 19:41 ` sbelmont700
2014-07-08 17:25   ` Shark8
2014-07-08 23:03     ` sbelmont700
2014-07-08 23:30       ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-09  0:29         ` sbelmont700
2014-07-09  2:30       ` Shark8
2014-07-27  2:01       ` David Thompson
2014-07-27 20:19         ` sbelmont700
2014-07-28  3:53           ` Dan'l Miller [this message]
2014-07-07  0:17 ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-07  1:17   ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-07  6:11     ` Simon Wright
2014-07-07  6:30     ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-07-07  9:04     ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-07 13:33       ` Simon Wright
2014-07-07 16:11         ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-10 19:49   ` Marius Amado-Alves
2014-07-10 20:19     ` Shark8
2014-07-10 21:39       ` björn lundin
2014-07-10 22:54         ` Shark8
2014-07-11  7:26           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-11  7:37           ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-07-11  9:32           ` björn lundin
2014-07-12 21:43           ` Marius Amado-Alves
2014-07-13  8:52             ` björn lundin
2014-07-11  0:16     ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-11  0:40       ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-11  1:15       ` Shark8
2014-07-11  7:03         ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-08 20:10 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-10 13:30 ` Gerd
2014-07-10 15:14   ` Shark8
2014-07-10 19:16   ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-11  2:17     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-07-11  0:39   ` gvdschoot
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