From: sbelmont700@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Ada's ranking of popularity at IEEE Spectrum
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 12:41:28 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2014-07-06T12:41:28-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3dcb7839-3003-4fcd-afb6-3369f715102b@googlegroups.com> (raw)
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On Sunday, July 6, 2014 11:19:04 AM UTC-4, Dan'l Miller wrote:
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> The over-arching goal of Ada202X should be to figure out how to attract more developers, both grand visions and low-hanging fruit.
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Making Ada "more popular" is a catch-22. IMHO, most of the reason Ada is unpopular is because it does not play well with others, which you really can't fix. Components follow the inherently unsafe patterns established by the languages they are written in (i.e. ANSI C), and even "good" API's are just naturally "Un-Adalike". Writing a thin binding just gets you unsafe C code in Ada, in which case you gain nothing, and writing a thick binding is so much work reinventing the wheel that it becomes prohibitive (and ends up being a totally new API). So, unfortunately, Ada will only ever "work right" when you can build everything yourself, from scratch, and can justify the cost of doing so (basically, safety critical systems).
-sb
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2014-07-06 15:19 Ada's ranking of popularity at IEEE Spectrum Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 16:25 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-06 17:18 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 18:03 ` Ludovic Brenta
2014-07-06 19:03 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 19:41 ` Ludovic Brenta
2014-07-07 7:03 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-07-06 22:15 ` Brad Moore
2014-07-07 13:14 ` Peter Chapin
2014-07-07 14:27 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-09 15:01 ` Brad Moore
2014-07-10 7:42 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-07-10 13:56 ` Peter Chapin
2014-07-10 18:18 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-10 18:30 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-11 4:55 ` theanalogmachine
2014-07-11 11:56 ` G.B.
2014-07-07 8:37 ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-06 19:41 ` sbelmont700 [this message]
2014-07-08 17:25 ` Shark8
2014-07-08 23:03 ` sbelmont700
2014-07-08 23:30 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-09 0:29 ` sbelmont700
2014-07-09 2:30 ` Shark8
2014-07-27 2:01 ` David Thompson
2014-07-27 20:19 ` sbelmont700
2014-07-28 3:53 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-07 0:17 ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-07 1:17 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-07 6:11 ` Simon Wright
2014-07-07 6:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-07-07 9:04 ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-07 13:33 ` Simon Wright
2014-07-07 16:11 ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-10 19:49 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2014-07-10 20:19 ` Shark8
2014-07-10 21:39 ` björn lundin
2014-07-10 22:54 ` Shark8
2014-07-11 7:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-11 7:37 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-07-11 9:32 ` björn lundin
2014-07-12 21:43 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2014-07-13 8:52 ` björn lundin
2014-07-11 0:16 ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-11 0:40 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-11 1:15 ` Shark8
2014-07-11 7:03 ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-08 20:10 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-10 13:30 ` Gerd
2014-07-10 15:14 ` Shark8
2014-07-10 19:16 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-11 2:17 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-07-11 0:39 ` gvdschoot
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