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From: sbelmont700@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Ada's ranking of popularity at IEEE Spectrum
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:03:51 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2014-07-08T16:03:51-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5e74f05-a4db-44b6-80f4-086870661e41@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MPVuv.204778$bA1.197057@fx22.iad>

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:25:00 PM UTC-4, Shark8 wrote:
> 
> So then, why aren't we-as-a-community doing that?
> 

Mostly because in a strongly typed system, *everything* has to be a generic.  And once you start in with generics, all the little gotchas and quirks make any sort of modestly-complex component next to impossible (or at least extremely unpleasant) to create.  So we, as a community, cannot easily divide up the work in a component like manner, and are usually forced to start all way down at the O/S interface level *for every single project*.  And again, even if you do manage to create an elegant Ada interface to OpenSSL, it's not going to be OpenSSL, because OpenSSL is an untyped C API that is anathema to everything Ada.  The better you make it, the further away from the standard you get, and the less people are going to want to use it.

FWIW, a focus on generics and creating *isolated* reusable components would be a good focus area for research, because currently it's essentially impossible.

-sb


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-08 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-06 15:19 Ada's ranking of popularity at IEEE Spectrum Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 16:25 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-06 17:18   ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 18:03     ` Ludovic Brenta
2014-07-06 19:03       ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 19:41         ` Ludovic Brenta
2014-07-07  7:03         ` Tero Koskinen
2014-07-06 22:15     ` Brad Moore
2014-07-07 13:14       ` Peter Chapin
2014-07-07 14:27         ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-09 15:01         ` Brad Moore
2014-07-10  7:42           ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-07-10 13:56             ` Peter Chapin
2014-07-10 18:18             ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-10 18:30               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-11  4:55                 ` theanalogmachine
2014-07-11 11:56                 ` G.B.
2014-07-07  8:37     ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-06 19:41 ` sbelmont700
2014-07-08 17:25   ` Shark8
2014-07-08 23:03     ` sbelmont700 [this message]
2014-07-08 23:30       ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-09  0:29         ` sbelmont700
2014-07-09  2:30       ` Shark8
2014-07-27  2:01       ` David Thompson
2014-07-27 20:19         ` sbelmont700
2014-07-28  3:53           ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-07  0:17 ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-07  1:17   ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-07  6:11     ` Simon Wright
2014-07-07  6:30     ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-07-07  9:04     ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-07 13:33       ` Simon Wright
2014-07-07 16:11         ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-10 19:49   ` Marius Amado-Alves
2014-07-10 20:19     ` Shark8
2014-07-10 21:39       ` björn lundin
2014-07-10 22:54         ` Shark8
2014-07-11  7:26           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-11  7:37           ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-07-11  9:32           ` björn lundin
2014-07-12 21:43           ` Marius Amado-Alves
2014-07-13  8:52             ` björn lundin
2014-07-11  0:16     ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-11  0:40       ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-11  1:15       ` Shark8
2014-07-11  7:03         ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-08 20:10 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-10 13:30 ` Gerd
2014-07-10 15:14   ` Shark8
2014-07-10 19:16   ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-11  2:17     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-07-11  0:39   ` gvdschoot
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