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From: Peter Chapin <PChapin@vtc.vsc.edu>
Subject: Re: Ada's ranking of popularity at IEEE Spectrum
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:14:43 -0400
Date: 2014-07-07T09:14:43-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8OednWik9bvZACfORVn_vwA@giganews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <STjuv.94428$Oh3.66967@fx02.iad>

On 2014-07-06 18:15, Brad Moore wrote:

> I think another path to Ada popularity would be to raise awareness of
> the differences.
> 
> There was a paper entitled "C++? A Critique of C++ and Programming
> Language Trends of the 1990s." by Ian Joyner written way back in 1996,
> available in numerous places on the web, including here:
> 
> http://archive.adaic.com/intro/ada-vs-c/cppcv3.pdf
> 
> The paper is written by someone who obviously has a strong knowledge of
> Eiffel and C++, but raised some good criticisms which I think mostly
> still would apply today.

FWIW, I think Joyner's document is terrible. In fact I wrote a somewhat
long "Critique of Critique of C++" that I'd be willing to email to
anyone who might be interested. My opinion is that Joyner does not
understand C++ particularly well at all and that, in fact, he has
several "fringe" ideas about what constitutes good programming language
design. He work makes him appear to be a quack.

While I agree that C++ has issues, quoting Joyner's document just
weakens one's arguments.

Peter



  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-07 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-06 15:19 Ada's ranking of popularity at IEEE Spectrum Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 16:25 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-06 17:18   ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 18:03     ` Ludovic Brenta
2014-07-06 19:03       ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-06 19:41         ` Ludovic Brenta
2014-07-07  7:03         ` Tero Koskinen
2014-07-06 22:15     ` Brad Moore
2014-07-07 13:14       ` Peter Chapin [this message]
2014-07-07 14:27         ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-09 15:01         ` Brad Moore
2014-07-10  7:42           ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-07-10 13:56             ` Peter Chapin
2014-07-10 18:18             ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-10 18:30               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-11  4:55                 ` theanalogmachine
2014-07-11 11:56                 ` G.B.
2014-07-07  8:37     ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-06 19:41 ` sbelmont700
2014-07-08 17:25   ` Shark8
2014-07-08 23:03     ` sbelmont700
2014-07-08 23:30       ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-09  0:29         ` sbelmont700
2014-07-09  2:30       ` Shark8
2014-07-27  2:01       ` David Thompson
2014-07-27 20:19         ` sbelmont700
2014-07-28  3:53           ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-07  0:17 ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-07  1:17   ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-07  6:11     ` Simon Wright
2014-07-07  6:30     ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-07-07  9:04     ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-07 13:33       ` Simon Wright
2014-07-07 16:11         ` Brian Drummond
2014-07-10 19:49   ` Marius Amado-Alves
2014-07-10 20:19     ` Shark8
2014-07-10 21:39       ` björn lundin
2014-07-10 22:54         ` Shark8
2014-07-11  7:26           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-11  7:37           ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-07-11  9:32           ` björn lundin
2014-07-12 21:43           ` Marius Amado-Alves
2014-07-13  8:52             ` björn lundin
2014-07-11  0:16     ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-11  0:40       ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-11  1:15       ` Shark8
2014-07-11  7:03         ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-08 20:10 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-10 13:30 ` Gerd
2014-07-10 15:14   ` Shark8
2014-07-10 19:16   ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-11  2:17     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-07-11  0:39   ` gvdschoot
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