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From: kdm@rational.com (Kent Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Vendor bashing? Sort of.
Date: 19 Sep 1994 17:11:48 GMT
Date: 1994-09-19T17:11:48+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35kgok$pni@rational.rational.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: SRCTRAN.94Sep18090214@world.std.com

Gregory Aharonian (srctran@world.std.com) wrote:

[stuff deleted slamming Robert]
: 	Each and every hour of a DoD contractor's employees day has
: to be accounted for to some contract (unless he is a non-peon on overhead).

This is *not* true.  This may be what you think but all DoD contactors that
I work with are more than willing to have people educated and they do not
see any need to have this time billed against some contact.

: 	So when I wanted to make a pitch to help one such company save money
: by using some Ada software I had referenced in my databases, for anyone at
: that company to sit in on a presentation I wanted to give, they would have to
: get permission from their manager to charge to some DoD contract their spending
: one hour to listen to me.  In this case, the manager refused to do so, so
: despite having a group of programmers interested in what I could offer for as
: an Ada entrepreneur, I could not even get a chance to make my pitch.
: 	Why did the manager refuse?  As I said before, using my services would
: have allowed them to save the taxpayers and the DoD lot of money on the
: contract, but would have cut into the company's and manager's profits and
: bonuses, under existing defense procurement regulations.  So why bother
: listening to a sales pitch, no matter how relevant.

It is pure speculation on your part as to why the manager did not want to
give permission for you to come in and make your pitch unless you actually
talked to this manager and the manager stated this as the reason.  I know
Rational seldom has any problem with getting time to demo our products and
services.  To the best of my knowlege, we've never been told that we could
not demo our products for the reasons you state.

--
Kent Mitchell                   | One possible reason that things aren't
Technical Consultant            | going according to plan is .....
Rational Software Corporation   | that there never *was* a plan!



  parent reply	other threads:[~1994-09-19 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1994-09-08 13:53 Air Force shows how meaningless Ada waiver process is Rhoda Metzger
1994-09-08 17:36 ` John R. Cobarruvias
1994-09-08 19:14 ` Greg Annoyingme gets tricky (was: Re: Air Force shows how meaningless Ada waiver process is) Ted Dennison
1994-09-08 20:16   ` John R. Cobarruvias
1994-09-13  9:46 ` Air Force shows how meaningless Ada waiver process is Richard A. O'Keefe
1994-09-13 16:14   ` Michael Feldman
1994-09-13 20:14     ` Robert Dewar
1994-09-14  2:46       ` Vendor bashing? Sort of Michael Feldman
1994-09-14 13:17         ` Mitch Gart
1994-09-15 13:28           ` Robert Dewar
1994-09-16 15:26             ` Michael Feldman
1994-09-16  1:56           ` Michael Feldman
1994-09-16 14:16             ` Gregory Aharonian
1994-09-16 18:23               ` Quo Vadis Ada Market?(was Re: Vendor bashing? Sort of.) david.c.willett
1994-09-17  0:11               ` Vendor bashing? Sort of Robert Dewar
1994-09-18 14:02                 ` Gregory Aharonian
1994-09-19 15:20                   ` david.c.willett
1994-09-19 17:11                   ` Kent Mitchell [this message]
1994-09-19 11:48                 ` Ted Dennison
1994-09-19 19:16             ` Kent Mitchell
1994-09-27  4:26               ` Michael Feldman
1994-09-27 16:38                 ` Kent Mitchell
1994-09-14 14:30         ` Mike Ryer
1994-09-15 13:30           ` Robert Dewar
1994-09-19  2:19             ` Michael Feldman
1994-09-19  3:52               ` Robert Dewar
1994-09-22 16:43                 ` Michael Feldman
1994-09-22 22:11                   ` Richard Kenner
     [not found]                   ` <35svf1$77i@cmcl2.nyu.edu>
1994-09-27  4:19                     ` Michael Feldman
1994-09-27 14:35                       ` M3 Network Objects (Formerly: bashing? Sort of.) Anthony Gargaro
1994-09-19 19:20               ` Vendor bashing? Sort of Erik Naggum
1994-09-20 13:58               ` C++ bashing (was Re: Vendor bashing? Sort of.) -mlc-+Schilling J.
1994-09-20 21:51                 ` Robert Dewar
1994-09-24 18:53                   ` Fred McCall
1994-10-04 16:03                     ` -mlc-+Schilling J.
1994-10-04 18:44                       ` Robert Dewar
1994-10-05 14:24                         ` -mlc-+Schilling J.
1994-09-14 13:49       ` Air Force shows how meaningless Ada waiver process is Christopher Costello
1994-09-17 12:40       ` Fred McCall
1994-09-22 17:15         ` Was... Air Force shows... Now... Vendor Bashing Chris Eveleigh
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