From: Martin Krischik <martin@krischik.com>
Subject: Re: Possible Ada deficiency?
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 18:49:01 +0100
Date: 2005-01-02T18:49:01+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1583282.MNpLsG3Aep@linux1.krischik.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1104593266.794612.257170@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
danmcleran@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> just as anybody can type
>>
>> #define private public
>>
>> in C++.
>>
>> With Regards
>>
>> Martin
>
> Yes. This kind of thing is evil.
Of course you can do the same in Ada using the "Cut/Copy/Paste" feature of
you favourite Editor and Unchecked_Conversion. For the determined you can
make it only more difficult.
You know, after using C++ for a few years I started to create only classes
like this:
class X_self;
class X
{
public:
..........
private:
X_self& X;
};
Reason: The main incompatiblily problem is the result of the sizeof
operator. And only opaque types can solve that.
But then I have to agree that the C++ "private" has enormous marketing
value.
> One of the main reasons I find Ada so
> appealing is that it has fewer loopholes for this kind of stuff to get
> through. I am surprised that child packages have as much visibility as
> they do, and that there is no way to prevent it, though.
If you write a child package you should know what you are doing. Mind you,
child packages where new for Ada 95. In Ada 83 there was only:
package Parent
package Child
private
end Child;
private
end Parent;
package body Parent
package body Child is seperate;
end Parent;
With this contruct you actualy know all possible child packages. There must
have been a good reason why the new Child packages got access the private
data as well. But then the old child packages even have access to the body
informations.
Martin
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2004-12-31 18:15 Possible Ada deficiency? danmcleran
2004-12-31 19:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-01-01 1:52 ` danmcleran
2005-01-01 2:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-01-01 2:02 ` danmcleran
2005-01-01 14:11 ` Martin Krischik
2005-01-01 15:27 ` danmcleran
2005-01-02 17:49 ` Martin Krischik [this message]
2005-01-01 15:30 ` Stephen Leake
2005-01-01 15:57 ` danmcleran
2005-01-03 23:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-01-07 17:26 ` Nick Roberts
2005-01-07 18:26 ` danmcleran
2005-01-07 21:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-01-08 3:56 ` Nick Roberts
2005-01-08 18:15 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-08 19:11 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-01-08 20:03 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-09 3:40 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-01-09 17:30 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-09 19:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-01-09 21:56 ` Nick Roberts
2005-01-10 13:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-01-10 16:46 ` Duncan Sands
2005-01-10 17:58 ` Pascal Obry
2005-01-10 18:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-01-10 19:44 ` Pascal Obry
2005-01-11 10:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-01-11 7:24 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2005-01-11 9:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-01-11 13:57 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2005-01-11 21:52 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-12 11:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-01-09 17:23 ` danmcleran
2005-01-09 17:46 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-10 3:05 ` danmcleran
2005-01-09 18:41 ` Nick Roberts
2005-01-09 19:06 ` Martin Krischik
2005-01-09 20:10 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-09 20:15 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-11 14:13 ` Possible Ada deficiency? (goto) Peter Hermann
2005-01-11 14:54 ` Nick Roberts
2005-01-11 22:15 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-12 10:17 ` Peter Hermann
2005-01-15 17:34 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-15 17:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-01-15 19:34 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-10 20:15 ` Possible Ada deficiency? Randy Brukardt
2005-01-10 21:51 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-11 20:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-01-11 21:24 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-12 19:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-01-02 15:51 ` Adrian Hoe
2005-01-04 16:06 ` Peter Hermann
2005-01-01 23:36 ` tmoran
2005-01-02 3:38 ` danmcleran
2004-12-31 19:16 ` Martin Dowie
2005-01-01 2:32 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-12-31 23:23 ` Nick Roberts
2005-01-01 1:56 ` danmcleran
2005-01-01 11:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-01-01 15:46 ` danmcleran
2005-01-01 17:58 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-01-01 19:43 ` danmcleran
2005-01-02 0:36 ` Ed Falis
2005-01-02 3:36 ` danmcleran
2005-01-02 15:53 ` Ed Falis
2005-01-07 18:31 ` danmcleran
2005-01-07 18:44 ` Pascal Obry
2005-01-07 19:29 ` danmcleran
2005-01-07 21:28 ` Pascal Obry
2005-01-01 23:28 ` danmcleran
2005-01-02 10:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-01-02 15:51 ` danmcleran
2005-01-03 23:48 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-01-01 14:06 ` Martin Krischik
2005-01-01 15:53 ` danmcleran
2005-01-07 21:33 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-09 17:15 ` danmcleran
2005-01-09 17:38 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-10 3:16 ` danmcleran
2005-01-09 18:41 ` Martin Dowie
2005-01-10 3:18 ` danmcleran
2005-01-10 20:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-01-10 21:42 ` danmcleran
2005-01-10 21:36 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-10 21:44 ` danmcleran
2005-01-09 19:01 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-01-10 3:20 ` danmcleran
2005-01-10 22:16 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-10 22:29 ` danmcleran
2005-01-11 20:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-01-11 20:30 ` danmcleran
2005-01-11 21:44 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-11 0:06 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-01-11 0:46 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-11 20:37 ` danmcleran
2005-01-11 21:08 ` Robert A Duff
2005-01-17 4:40 ` Tucker
2005-01-18 13:46 ` danmcleran
2005-01-18 21:29 ` Nick Roberts
2005-01-24 17:23 ` danmcleran
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2004-12-31 19:06 danmcleran
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