Re: why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) failed compared to the C family?

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On Friday, July 18, 2014 12:04:37 PM UTC-7, gautier...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Le vendredi 18 juillet 2014 20:08:46 UTC+2, isaa...@gmail.com a écrit :
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> > 2) GUI. Yeah sorry, these days for many things my end users expect a GUI and Ada doesn't really have it. GtkAda? Sure, but documentation & examples are lacking and often incorrect, plus Gtk is such a pain to use when compared to Windows stuff, Qt or even Java.
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> If you use Windows, perhaps you'll be interested at this:
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> http://sf.net/projects/gnavi/
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Oh yes, I found that. Also AdaStudio. However, they are sorely deficient. It took quite a while just to get AdaStudio as many of the links were broken. As for GNAVI, I have the April-2014 download, but since it lacked any correct documentation on how to install, it took me quite a while to get going.
(Perhaps there is some peculiarity to my set up, but none of my other dev tools seem to have issue installing & running properly). This is starting with what appears to be a working GNAT installation.

Once I got it up and running, the interface is, well, non-intuitive, which does not help so much without good documentation. (If you have not noticed, the help is one line saying it will be available soon). I even managed to muddle through that, but I cannot directly test anything as build doesn't work. I'm sure it's just some path issue or something, but keep in mind I'm starting from a working GNAT install and since I am able to run GNAVI, the environment was obviously good enough to build all that stuff during the install.

This is what I have to jump through even though I am very motivated to work with Ada. Imagine someone is half-heartedly poking around with it.
I'm not "blaming" anyone, there is no Sun/Oracle backing Ada to kick start this thing (but then, neither did Python), that's just the state of matters and has been since the start with ObjectPascal, Oberon, etc. and it's a big hurdle for new users.