From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) failed compared to the C family?
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 15:28:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s8qr6e$1i2o$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ac08967c-766e-489c-918a-94ed86a79c67n@googlegroups.com
On 2021-05-28 15:07, John Perry wrote:
> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 7:37:49 AM UTC-5, Shark8 wrote:
>> That story comes from the paper "Oberon: The Overlooked Jewel" — https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Oberon-%E2%80%93-The-Overlooked-Jewel-1-Oberon-%E2%80%93-The-Jewel-Franz/9a7870c543c19eb4f46fdfbdcfb92d33ae2bf810 —
>>
>>> In order to find the optimal cost/benefit ratio, Wirth used a highly intuitive metric, the origin of which is unknown to me but that may very well be Wirth’s own invention. He used the compiler’s self-compilation speed as a measure of the compiler’s quality.
>
> Yes, that's it! and alas, I did slightly misremember it.
I remember that Turbo Pascal had only one error message, something like
"Syntax error in expression" with, God forbid, no column number.
Otherwise yes, it was pretty fast, much faster than MS-DOS C/C++
compilers of the time, Borland's own C++ including.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2014-07-16 12:25 why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) failed compared to the C family? Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-16 16:55 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-07-16 17:40 ` john
2014-07-16 17:47 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-16 19:57 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-17 11:53 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2, 2, Oberon, Delphi, Algol, ...) " Luke A. Guest
2014-07-17 17:06 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) " Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-16 20:52 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2, 2, Oberon, " Georg Bauhaus
2014-07-16 19:22 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2, 2, Oberon, Delphi, Algol, ...) " Simon Wright
2014-07-16 19:52 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) " Jeffrey Carter
2014-07-17 2:14 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-17 5:29 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, anon
2014-07-17 12:24 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2, 2, Oberon, Dan'l Miller
2014-07-22 0:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-22 0:59 ` pincerfae
2014-07-22 14:41 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Dan'l Miller
2014-07-22 21:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-16 17:41 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) failed compared to the C family? Adam Beneschan
2014-07-16 23:06 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2, 2, Oberon, Delphi, Algol, ...) " Simon Clubley
2014-07-16 22:10 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) " torralbaduran
2014-07-17 11:08 ` Harvey White
2014-07-17 12:04 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2, 2, Oberon, Delphi, Algol, ...) " Simon Clubley
2014-07-17 12:11 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) " Simon Clubley
2014-07-17 12:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-18 2:17 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-07-18 6:53 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2, 2, Oberon, Delphi, Algol, ...) " Simon Wright
2014-07-17 21:37 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) " leonid.dulman
2014-07-17 22:25 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-17 23:50 ` Shark8
2014-07-18 1:00 ` Lucretia
2014-07-18 8:01 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-07-18 15:35 ` Presentation for the Ada-Europe conference (Was: why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) failed compared to the C family?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-07-19 9:10 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) failed compared to the C family? Pascal Obry
2014-07-18 11:09 ` leonid.dulman
2014-07-18 18:08 ` isaac1.0
2014-07-18 19:04 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-21 23:09 ` isaac1.0
2014-07-19 14:03 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-07-19 12:17 ` jm.tarrasa
2014-07-19 14:12 ` gvdschoot
2014-07-19 14:26 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2, 2, Oberon, Delphi, Algol, ...) " Simon Clubley
2014-07-19 14:35 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) " gvdschoot
2014-07-19 16:38 ` Simon Clubley
2014-07-19 17:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-07-19 14:56 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-19 15:20 ` gvdschoot
2014-07-19 17:56 ` Per Sandberg
2014-07-20 19:40 ` pincerfae
2014-07-20 22:30 ` Shark8
2014-07-20 22:51 ` gautier_niouzes
2014-07-20 23:11 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2, 2, Oberon, " Shark8
2014-07-20 23:21 ` why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, " Dan'l Miller
2014-07-21 1:42 ` Shark8
2014-07-21 4:57 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-07-21 6:51 ` Shark8
2014-07-21 18:01 ` pincerfae
2014-07-20 23:18 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-07-21 1:16 ` Shark8
2021-05-27 6:53 ` Robin Vowels
2021-05-27 7:55 ` ldries46
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2021-05-28 7:22 ` ldries46
2021-05-28 13:59 ` Robin Vowels
2021-05-27 23:47 ` Wilson
2021-05-27 15:46 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2021-05-27 16:00 ` Paul Rubin
2021-05-27 16:49 ` Robin Vowels
2021-05-27 17:53 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2021-05-28 0:34 ` John Perry
2021-05-28 12:37 ` Shark8
2021-05-28 13:07 ` John Perry
2021-05-28 13:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2021-05-30 16:12 ` Luke A. Guest
2021-05-30 19:00 ` Bill Findlay
2021-05-31 14:26 ` Paul Rubin
2021-06-01 0:32 ` Bill Findlay
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2021-06-01 11:23 ` Bill Findlay
2021-06-01 16:46 ` Paul Rubin
2021-06-01 23:04 ` Bill Findlay
2021-06-02 14:04 ` John Perry
2021-06-02 14:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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