From: Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Boeing 737 and 737 MAX software
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:39:41 -0400
Date: 2019-04-18T12:39:41-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a39hbe5j64hmff4re88e79u1mlr2v9k2gb@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ee336443-cddc-4a26-bba2-610efb82d9be@googlegroups.com
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT), tranngocduong@gmail.com declaimed
the following:
>
>a) Ada was used but programmers have chosen a wrong (too relaxed) subtype, or other language was used and programmers failed to code whatever equivalent to raising and handling a CONSTRAINT_ERROR. Simply: software bug.
>
The common action on any exception is to log it (in flash memory) and
/restart/ the FMS software. Restarting likely includes synchronizing with
the second FMS -- but after such a synchronization, aircraft control would
have been given to the primary FMS; which likely would have almost
immediately produced an exception and.... repeat until the pilots manually
switch control to the second FMS processor.
>b) Contrary to general belief, the software was not programmed with multiple redundant computation. Simply: process failure.
>
>I chose to believe a).
It is most likely a variant of B. MCAS was supposed to nudge the
aircraft attitude when it sensed a potential stall condition from just AoA
(airflow angle against the wings) with no concern for air speed;
pre-existing air speed computations were not changed by the addition of
MCAS (couldn't have been if MCAS can be manually disabled in flight).
Without the (formerly optional) hardware, this becomes a single sensor
matter -- and one which can not be detected as faulty (while each FMS may
have had its own sensor, during a disagreement, the primary FMS likely
pushes /its/ computed aircraft state to the secondary FMS which is supposed
to start computations from those values; probably diverging again until the
next sync interval -- get enough of these divergences and the secondary
might be the one to shut down; the FMS displays might show "SINGLE FMS"
mode])
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com
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2019-04-05 21:16 Boeing 737 and 737 MAX software Paul Rubin
2019-04-06 1:16 ` Jere
2019-04-06 19:05 ` Paul Rubin
2019-04-18 22:04 ` Paul Rubin
2019-04-19 9:13 ` tranngocduong
2019-04-06 17:30 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-04-06 18:45 ` Niklas Holsti
2019-06-28 23:45 ` Paul Rubin
2019-06-29 2:52 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-06-29 3:38 ` Paul Rubin
2019-06-29 16:29 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-08-07 6:06 ` robin.vowels
2019-11-08 1:12 ` Paul Rubin
2019-11-08 15:32 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-11-18 11:16 ` robin.vowels
2019-11-18 15:32 ` Optikos
2019-04-12 7:46 ` tranngocduong
2019-04-12 22:15 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-04-17 17:27 ` Maciej Sobczak
2019-04-18 9:45 ` tranngocduong
2019-04-18 12:44 ` Maciej Sobczak
2019-04-18 13:53 ` tranngocduong
2019-04-18 15:13 ` Niklas Holsti
2019-04-18 16:21 ` tranngocduong
2019-04-18 18:20 ` Niklas Holsti
2019-04-20 0:29 ` tranngocduong
2019-04-18 20:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2019-04-18 20:51 ` Paul Rubin
2019-04-18 20:20 ` Paul Rubin
2019-04-18 16:39 ` Dennis Lee Bieber [this message]
2019-04-19 2:39 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-04-22 19:36 ` Norman Worth
2019-04-28 18:27 ` russ lyttle
2019-04-18 13:50 ` Simon Wright
2019-04-18 15:07 ` tranngocduong
2019-05-05 14:29 ` robin.vowels
2019-05-06 13:54 ` robin.vowels
2019-05-06 15:12 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-08-07 5:51 ` robin.vowels
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