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From: robin.vowels@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Boeing 737 and 737 MAX software
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 23:06:38 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2019-08-06T23:06:38-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eb2af12e-3b80-466b-9b2c-66e402fc8dcd@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v9wpe0k7.fsf@nightsong.com>

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:45:46 AM UTC+10, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Dennis Lee Bieber <w.......@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > 	Unless things have changed severely -- GE Aviation (formerly Smith's
> > Aerospace, formerly Lear Siegler) produces the 737 FMS software (and also
> > the processor boxes).
> 
> Don't know if this is the FMS but it sounds like things may have changed:
> 
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers
> 
> It remains the mystery at the heart of Boeing Co.’s 737 Max crisis: how
> a company renowned for meticulous design made seemingly basic software
> mistakes leading to a pair of deadly crashes. Longtime Boeing engineers
> say the effort was complicated by a push to outsource work to lower-paid
> contractors.
> 
> The Max software -- plagued by issues that could keep the planes
> grounded months longer after U.S. regulators this week revealed a new
> flaw -- was developed at a time Boeing was laying off experienced
> engineers and pressing suppliers to cut costs.
> 
> Increasingly, the iconic American planemaker and its subcontractors have
> relied on temporary workers making as little as $9 an hour to develop
> and test software, often from countries lacking a deep background in
> aerospace -- notably India.

The basic issue behind this problem (and that of the Airbus's 3xx series)
is that the pilot should be able to take control.
In both types of plane, the pilot could do nothing with the controls
when the software malfunctioned.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-07  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-05 21:16 Boeing 737 and 737 MAX software Paul Rubin
2019-04-06  1:16 ` Jere
2019-04-06 19:05   ` Paul Rubin
2019-04-18 22:04   ` Paul Rubin
2019-04-19  9:13     ` tranngocduong
2019-04-06 17:30 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-04-06 18:45   ` Niklas Holsti
2019-06-28 23:45   ` Paul Rubin
2019-06-29  2:52     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-06-29  3:38       ` Paul Rubin
2019-06-29 16:29         ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-08-07  6:06     ` robin.vowels [this message]
2019-11-08  1:12   ` Paul Rubin
2019-11-08 15:32     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-11-18 11:16     ` robin.vowels
2019-11-18 15:32       ` Optikos
2019-04-12  7:46 ` tranngocduong
2019-04-12 22:15   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-04-17 17:27   ` Maciej Sobczak
2019-04-18  9:45     ` tranngocduong
2019-04-18 12:44       ` Maciej Sobczak
2019-04-18 13:53         ` tranngocduong
2019-04-18 15:13           ` Niklas Holsti
2019-04-18 16:21             ` tranngocduong
2019-04-18 18:20               ` Niklas Holsti
2019-04-20  0:29                 ` tranngocduong
2019-04-18 20:36               ` Randy Brukardt
2019-04-18 20:51                 ` Paul Rubin
2019-04-18 20:20             ` Paul Rubin
2019-04-18 16:39           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-04-19  2:39             ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-04-22 19:36             ` Norman Worth
2019-04-28 18:27               ` russ lyttle
2019-04-18 13:50   ` Simon Wright
2019-04-18 15:07     ` tranngocduong
2019-05-05 14:29 ` robin.vowels
2019-05-06 13:54   ` robin.vowels
2019-05-06 15:12     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2019-08-07  5:51   ` robin.vowels
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