* AdaPower Search @ 2004-11-01 5:55 David Botton 2004-11-01 23:54 ` Randy Brukardt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: David Botton @ 2004-11-01 5:55 UTC (permalink / raw) The new AdaPower is quickly being filled up with the old contents and the new (more than 250 links and articles already in and more to come - I expect to have everything imported and up to date by end of week)! So how do you find what you are looking for? Simple, AdaPower now features a search box off the front page that will instantly help you find the Package for reuse, code example or more that you are looking for. The new AdaPower.com - more power, more Ada, more coding excellence! David Botton http://www.adapower.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaPower Search 2004-11-01 5:55 AdaPower Search David Botton @ 2004-11-01 23:54 ` Randy Brukardt 2004-11-03 14:42 ` Jiri Navratil 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Randy Brukardt @ 2004-11-01 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw) "David Botton" <david@botton.com> wrote in message news:2004110100555416807%david@bottoncom... ... > So how do you find what you are looking for? > > Simple, AdaPower now features a search box off the front page that will > instantly help you find the Package for reuse, code example or more > that you are looking for. Of course, if you want to search all known Ada sites, including AdaPower (and avoid all of the non-Ada stuff that pops up on general search engines), you can use the Ada-wide search engine at http://www.adaic.com/site/wide-search.html. (Apologies to anyone that had trouble with it last week; I accidentally broke it during reindexing and part remained broken until a full reindexing finished.) Randy Brukardt, Technical Webmaster, adaic.com/.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaPower Search 2004-11-01 23:54 ` Randy Brukardt @ 2004-11-03 14:42 ` Jiri Navratil 2004-11-03 15:30 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Jiri Navratil @ 2004-11-03 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw) V Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:54:59 -0600, Randy Brukardt napsal(a): > "David Botton" <david@botton.com> wrote in message > news:2004110100555416807%david@bottoncom... > ... >> So how do you find what you are looking for? >> >> Simple, AdaPower now features a search box off the front page that will >> instantly help you find the Package for reuse, code example or more >> that you are looking for. > > Of course, if you want to search all known Ada sites, including AdaPower > (and avoid all of the non-Ada stuff that pops up on general search engines), > you can use the Ada-wide search engine at > http://www.adaic.com/site/wide-search.html. > > (Apologies to anyone that had trouble with it last week; I accidentally > broke it during reindexing and part remained broken until a full reindexing > finished.) > > Randy Brukardt, Technical Webmaster, adaic.com/.org Hi, I very welcome any UPDATED sites about ADA. So thenk you both of you for your sites / searching capatabilities. BTW: I'm not able to find the c2ada source code. I'm always finally go to a non existent page. I shall write a request for help to the news. Jiri ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaPower Search 2004-11-03 14:42 ` Jiri Navratil @ 2004-11-03 15:30 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen 2004-11-03 16:28 ` stephane richard ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Jean-Pierre Rosen @ 2004-11-03 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw) Jiri Navratil a écrit : > BTW: I'm not able to find the c2ada source code. I'm always finally go to > a non existent page. I shall write a request for help to the news. > If you want it, just ask me in a private mail. I kept this "temporarily", because it belongs to Tuck (but he lost track of it), and should go to his website, but apparently Tuck is not yet ready. I'd be very happy to hand this out to someone else who would make it more prominently available. David, are you listening? -- --------------------------------------------------------- J-P. Rosen (rosen@adalog.fr) Visit Adalog's web site at http://www.adalog.fr ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaPower Search 2004-11-03 15:30 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen @ 2004-11-03 16:28 ` stephane richard 2004-11-04 4:22 ` AdaWorld and AdaPower David Botton 2004-11-04 3:12 ` AdaPower Search David Botton 2004-11-04 13:45 ` David Botton 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: stephane richard @ 2004-11-03 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw) >If you want it, just ask me in a private mail. >I kept this "temporarily", because it belongs to Tuck (but he lost track of >it), and should go to his website, but apparently Tuck is not yet ready. >I'd be very happy to hand this out to someone else who would make it more >prominently available. David, are you listening? I would also be able to host it on my website http://www.adaworld.com Stephane Richard "Ada World" webmaster http://www.adaworld.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* AdaWorld and AdaPower 2004-11-03 16:28 ` stephane richard @ 2004-11-04 4:22 ` David Botton 2004-11-04 11:28 ` stephane richard 2004-11-04 20:20 ` Randy Brukardt 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: David Botton @ 2004-11-04 4:22 UTC (permalink / raw) (Stephane, not sure if this is the best place to discuss this, so I am comfortable on the admin-list @ AdaPower.com or in private e-mails if you prefer). Some time back we got in to some discussion, but never really focused on the different needs and roles our sites could serve to the community. AdaPower has always had its main focus as being a practical "tool" for Ada the language (it started as the Ada Source Code Treasury off my home page and grew in to AdaPower), but not really on the Ada community (sure it does a bit of that, but has never been "the" site for that). I don't foresee that changing and in fact with the new design and some future plans, I see it becoming even more focused on code, tutorials, articles, etc. In fact if I was going to do another site, I would add an Ada community center, I would create something say called AdaWorld :-) AdaWorld has already made strong head way in this regard. I would think that we put our heads together on AdaWorld, much as you have done so for AdaPower in the past and now, and push forward head strong in to it (I am ready to put my money behind my mouth here so to speak an be part of making this happen if you would like also) and make it both the compliment and to some degree the umbrella in relationship to AdaPower and other like sites. Here is how I think AdaWorld can and should become the Ada Community Site (perhaps you or others see more): * Current events that relate to the Ada community - Conferences / Call to papers A fantastic list is currently kept up to date by Dirk Craeynest at http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~dirk/ada-belgium/events/index.html That list could be mirrored at AdaWorld and reach more people. - Product Announcements Perhaps a form that would output press releases and announcements for Ada product releases, releases of new versions of code packages for reuse, etc. It could automatically send out a message to CLA, a list that people could join off of AdaWorld, and perhaps Team-Ada. I realize that there is a list at Ada IC, but very sadly it is focused on supporting ARA vendors and not the Ada community as a whole (although certainly this does so on many levels, but not in the capacity at hand). An AdaWorld open alternative for Ada PR stories / announcements would be a welcome addition to the Ada World :-) - Ada course announcements There are courses being given on Ada even for free in various places. For example, I am considering doing a series of live web cast tutorials on Ada. Getting some others to do the same. A good community center would be key to making this type of work a success. * Ada Advocacy (in general and for the common man) A center for collecting together much as AdaPower does for code and packages, of advocacy information. There is tons of it spread thin all over the net. While there are some Ada advocacy sites, they are fairly centered on certain themes. Some oriented around dependability, others coding readability, etc. etc. They also target varied markets. One market not being focused on and should be a big part of this is the common man, the application developer and the IT dude. The Big Linux book goes a long way to reach out to the common man, but a solid resource for Ada advocacy to non-critical engineering types is _very badly_ needed! * Community Guide (as a guided tour) A step by step guide in a "tour" book format to getting started in the Ada community. Where to go for code for reuse. Where to talk about Ada and get help. The history of Ada Where Ada is going and where it has been Key things to try out in Ada that will make you want to stick with the language and much more * Cool Factor Factory Ada needs to be cool. The very thing that has "killed" Ada can be what makes it the biggest "turn on". When I find a good geeky high schooler / CS1er around that I want to convert to Ada, I tell him using Ada via GNATCOM you can program missiles to fire from a word document (and that is a fact!). I tell him stuff like: Ada - Military Grade Programming! If you can get it to compile man, you just about know its goin' to work. Check this out (examples shown) I am not going to sell the M$ generation on reality, damn M$ alread made us believe bugs are features too :-) Vote for, Bug rights now! If I could see straight (its getting late), I'd write more, but I think the picture is clear as to the need for an Ada community site. AdaWorld has already started to dance in that space, the other sites that exist are too focused and/or not maintained. I think and would want to be part of an AdaWorld taking the lead in this space. My 2 dollars and 43 cents :-) David Botton http://www.adapower.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaWorld and AdaPower 2004-11-04 4:22 ` AdaWorld and AdaPower David Botton @ 2004-11-04 11:28 ` stephane richard 2004-11-05 23:51 ` Tom 2004-11-04 20:20 ` Randy Brukardt 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: stephane richard @ 2004-11-04 11:28 UTC (permalink / raw) No problem discussing this here at all. :-). If I'm gonna push towards a community website, I might as well talk to the community no? :-). See my comments distributed (logically I hope) in your post. "David Botton" <david@botton.com> wrote in message news:2004110323220875249%david@bottoncom... > (Stephane, not sure if this is the best place to discuss this, so I am > comfortable on the admin-list @ AdaPower.com or in private e-mails if you > prefer). > > Some time back we got in to some discussion, but never really focused on > the different needs and roles our sites could serve to the community. > *** I remember that, indeed we never went into details but we allready seemed to agree that different websites should work together with other websites instead of immitating them. There should be no competition but rather a synergy between existing websites. > AdaPower has always had its main focus as being a practical "tool" for Ada > the language (it started as the Ada Source Code Treasury off my home page > and grew in to AdaPower), but not really on the Ada community (sure it > does a bit of that, but has never been "the" site for that). I don't > foresee that changing and in fact with the new design and some future > plans, I see it becoming even more focused on code, tutorials, articles, > etc. > > In fact if I was going to do another site, I would add an Ada community > center, I would create something say called AdaWorld :-) *** I like that name ;-). When I started Ada World (coincidence? hehe) I wanted it to be somewhat of a community center in a way yes, maybe even a non regular date Ada Magazine (at the time I didn't want to abide to any Volume/Issue dated release :-) to some point too. I wanted people visiting the website to get a good glimps at what's out there (the actively developed projects as well as basically who's using it and why). So yes a Community / Magazine oriented website (with a bit of _______________ fill in the blank to go and get interest from other programmers in other languages). > > AdaWorld has already made strong head way in this regard. I would think > that we put our heads together on AdaWorld, much as you have done so for > AdaPower in the past and now, and push forward head strong in to it (I am > ready to put my money behind my mouth here so to speak an be part of > making this happen if you would like also) and make it both the compliment > and to some degree the umbrella in relationship to AdaPower and other like > sites. > *** Two heads are definitaly better than one. and I'm always open to suggestions from you and anyone else that would like to see something they're not seeing yet. :-). > Here is how I think AdaWorld can and should become the Ada Community Site > (perhaps you or others see more): > > * Current events that relate to the Ada community *** This I've been thinking about already, a company that recently discovered my website asked me to add their products in a "magazine" kind of way about a week ago. And that got me thinking in that direction. Of course not just for products, for anything that's going on :-). > > - Conferences / Call to papers > *** I guess this can go to my paragraph just above too :-). > A fantastic list is currently kept up to date by Dirk Craeynest at > http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~dirk/ada-belgium/events/index.html That list > could be mirrored at AdaWorld and reach more people. > > - Product Announcements *** See? I didn't read this one and I already answered it above ;-) > > Perhaps a form that would output press releases and announcements for Ada > product releases, releases of new versions of code packages for reuse, > etc. It could automatically send out a message to CLA, a list that people > could join off of AdaWorld, and perhaps Team-Ada. I realize that there is > a list at Ada IC, but very sadly it is focused on supporting ARA vendors > and not the Ada community as a whole (although certainly this does so on > many levels, but not in the capacity at hand). An AdaWorld open > alternative for Ada PR stories / announcements would be a welcome addition > to the Ada World :-) > *** Yeah, I see where you're getting here. I wasn't thinking exactly what to put in, but I was thinking that something like that might be fun. I was about to start asking around get an idea if this kind of thing could have a potential interest. :-). it just wasn't this detailed in my head yet ;-). *it was late for you when you wrote this, it's way too early for me right now, not enough caffeine running through my veins yet :-). > - Ada course announcements > > There are courses being given on Ada even for free in various places. > > For example, I am considering doing a series of live web cast tutorials on > Ada. Getting some others to do the same. A good community center would be > key to making this type of work a success. > *** Indeed, same as for the products, services such as training, where and when, would make sense :-). > * Ada Advocacy (in general and for the common man) > > A center for collecting together much as AdaPower does for code and > packages, of advocacy information. There is tons of it spread thin all > over the net. While there are some Ada advocacy sites, they are fairly > centered on certain themes. Some oriented around dependability, others > coding readability, etc. etc. They also target varied markets. One market > not being focused on and should be a big part of this is the common man, > the application developer and the IT dude. The Big Linux book goes a long > way to reach out to the common man, but a solid resource for Ada advocacy > to non-critical engineering types is _very badly_ needed! > *** I haven't been in the Ada community long enough yet to notice what you're saying here. Other than if I'm looking for non targetted advocacy, I haven't seen too many in my searches. But I won't say I haven't seen any :-). > * Community Guide (as a guided tour) > > A step by step guide in a "tour" book format to getting started in the Ada > community. > Where to go for code for reuse. > Where to talk about Ada and get help. > The history of Ada > Where Ada is going and where it has been > Key things to try out in Ada that will make you want to stick with the > language > and much more > > * Cool Factor Factory > > Ada needs to be cool. The very thing that has "killed" Ada can be what > makes it the biggest "turn on". When I find a good geeky high schooler / > CS1er around that I want to convert to Ada, I tell him using Ada via > GNATCOM you can program missiles to fire from a word document (and that is > a fact!). I tell him stuff like: > *** I think Ada is cool ;-). But yeah, I know what you mean here. I've been saying it for a while, but people have a "software engineering" point of view of Ada. In a way they're right and that's what makes the strength of Ada, readability too of course, and many more things. GNAVI when completed I think will definitaly help with the cool part. Being Ada's reply to Delphi, the outside world will havbe something they know (delphi) to compare the reply (GNAVI) And I think we need more this in and out of Ada to compare Ada. > Ada - Military Grade Programming! > If you can get it to compile man, you just about know its goin' to work. > Check this out (examples shown) > > I am not going to sell the M$ generation on reality, damn M$ alread made > us believe bugs are features too :-) Vote for, Bug rights now! > *** Yeah, sure it's a blue screen, but you gotta admit, it's the best looking blue ya ever saw, that was planned in the development right? ;-). > If I could see straight (its getting late), I'd write more, but I think > the picture is clear as to the need for an Ada community site. AdaWorld > has already started to dance in that space, the other sites that exist are > too focused and/or not maintained. I think and would want to be part of an > AdaWorld taking the lead in this space. > *** There will be daylight tomorrow too, we got time to talk :-). Me I'm still waiting for daylight to start showing itself (early like I said). But yeah, There's room for Ada World to grow. And so far, what you said here, even if it was late last night, fits Ada World's Futur plans pretty good. So we can talk about here (maybe get opinions and ideas from people here) to push us in the right direction and well then start walking ;-). > My 2 dollars and 43 cents :-) > I'm canadian, so this was my 3 dollars and 69 cents :-). > David Botton > http://www.adapower.com > > Stephane Richard "Ada World" webmaster http://www.adaworld.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaWorld and AdaPower 2004-11-04 11:28 ` stephane richard @ 2004-11-05 23:51 ` Tom 2004-11-06 0:41 ` stephane richard 2004-11-07 0:33 ` David Botton 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Tom @ 2004-11-05 23:51 UTC (permalink / raw) "stephane richard" <stephane.richard@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<unoid.721$du1.570@trndny02>... > "David Botton" <david@botton.com> wrote in message > news:2004110323220875249%david@bottoncom... > > Here is how I think AdaWorld can and should become the Ada Community Site > > (perhaps you or others see more): > > > > * Current events that relate to the Ada community > *** This I've been thinking about already, a company that recently > discovered my website asked me to add their products in a "magazine" kind of > way about a week ago. And that got me thinking in that direction. Of > course not just for products, for anything that's going on :-). > > > > - Product Announcements > > > > Perhaps a form that would output press releases and announcements for Ada > > product releases, releases of new versions of code packages for reuse, > > etc. It could automatically send out a message to CLA, a list that people > > could join off of AdaWorld, and perhaps Team-Ada. I realize that there is > > a list at Ada IC, but very sadly it is focused on supporting ARA vendors > > and not the Ada community as a whole (although certainly this does so on > > many levels, but not in the capacity at hand). An AdaWorld open > > alternative for Ada PR stories / announcements would be a welcome addition > > to the Ada World :-) > > > *** Yeah, I see where you're getting here. I wasn't thinking exactly what to > put in, but I was thinking that something like that might be fun. I was > about to start asking around get an idea if this kind of thing could have a > potential interest. :-). it just wasn't this detailed in my head yet ;-). > *it was late for you when you wrote this, it's way too early for me right > now, not enough caffeine running through my veins yet :-). > May I make a suggestion instead of just product announcements is there any way to add reviews to the products. I thinking something like a article that compares and contrasts the new product with existing products. What would be also be helpful is if there were a way for current users to add their opinions to the end of the article. I am probably dreaming in technocolor but could the articles also include the prices of the products. Along the same line is there a way to get an article written that discusses all the major products in an product field. What I am thinking is an article that compares the major strengths and weaknesses for example of the ten most used Ada IDEs( including their compilers). Something like what CNET does when it compares groups of products. User feedback would also be useful here. If you did both the reviews of all the products and major evalution it would very helpful in showing the new comers how the products are actually evaluated. Another benefit would be to make it easier to find the lesser known but great products; because, they have a great possibility of being mentioned by users who are giving their opinions about the reviewed products. > > * Community Guide (as a guided tour) > > > > A step by step guide in a "tour" book format to getting started in the Ada > > community. > > Where to go for code for reuse. > > Where to talk about Ada and get help. > > The history of Ada > > Where Ada is going and where it has been > > Key things to try out in Ada that will make you want to stick with the > > language > > and much more > > Here I have a suggestion also how about articles by developers in the field. For instance, I would find it very interesting to see what programmers in the scientific and engineering arenas have to say about products needed or desired for doing numerical programming. Why were the particular IDEs and other programs used or desired. For also, I would like to see the opinions of the readers of the articles included. > > > > * Cool Factor Factory > > > > Ada needs to be cool. The very thing that has "killed" Ada can be what > > makes it the biggest "turn on". When I find a good geeky high schooler / > > CS1er around that I want to convert to Ada, I tell him using Ada via > > GNATCOM you can program missiles to fire from a word document (and that is > > a fact!). I tell him stuff like: > > > *** I think Ada is cool ;-). But yeah, I know what you mean here. I've > been saying it for a while, but people have a "software engineering" point > of view of Ada. In a way they're right and that's what makes the strength of > Ada, readability too of course, and many more things. GNAVI when completed > I think will definitaly help with the cool part. Being Ada's reply to > Delphi, the outside world will havbe something they know (delphi) to compare > the reply (GNAVI) And I think we need more this in and out of Ada to > compare Ada. > > > Ada - Military Grade Programming! > > If you can get it to compile man, you just about know its goin' to work. > > Check this out (examples shown) > > > > I am not going to sell the M$ generation on reality, damn M$ alread made > > us believe bugs are features too :-) Vote for, Bug rights now! > > > *** Yeah, sure it's a blue screen, but you gotta admit, it's the best > looking blue ya ever saw, that was planned in the development right? ;-). > > > If I could see straight (its getting late), I'd write more, but I think > > the picture is clear as to the need for an Ada community site. AdaWorld > > has already started to dance in that space, the other sites that exist are > > too focused and/or not maintained. I think and would want to be part of an > > AdaWorld taking the lead in this space. > > > *** There will be daylight tomorrow too, we got time to talk :-). Me I'm > still waiting for daylight to start showing itself (early like I said). But > yeah, There's room for Ada World to grow. And so far, what you said here, > even if it was late last night, fits Ada World's Futur plans pretty good. > So we can talk about here (maybe get opinions and ideas from people here) to > push us in the right direction and well then start walking ;-). > > > My 2 dollars and 43 cents :-) > > > I'm canadian, so this was my 3 dollars and 69 cents :-). > > > David Botton > > http://www.adapower.com > > > > > Stephane Richard > "Ada World" webmaster > http://www.adaworld.com Just an another Canadian's opinions, tom ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaWorld and AdaPower 2004-11-05 23:51 ` Tom @ 2004-11-06 0:41 ` stephane richard 2004-11-07 0:33 ` David Botton 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: stephane richard @ 2004-11-06 0:41 UTC (permalink / raw) "Tom" <8f27iw6z@canada.com> wrote in message > May I make a suggestion instead of just product announcements is there > any way to add reviews to the products. I thinking something like a > article that compares and contrasts the new product with existing > products. What would be also be helpful is if there were a way for > current users to add their opinions to the end of the article. I am > probably dreaming in technocolor but could the articles also include > the prices of the products. > *** That's a very interesting suggestion Tom. I can definitally see it happening too. As far as the prices, well I wouldn't mind showing them, but as long as visitors recognize that the prices shown are valid for that time / date the article was written :-). not sure I'd wanna run back throught the articles to update prices :-). > Along the same line is there a way to get an article written that > discusses all the major products in an product field. What I am > thinking is an article that compares the major strengths and > weaknesses for example of the ten most used Ada IDEs( including their > compilers). Something like what CNET does when it compares groups of > products. User feedback would also be useful here. > *** you mean comparison charts? Columnized data for quick comparison of features/capacities? That will require research, but I know I'd like that (even if it's not what you meant :-) but yeah I see your point of view. as in: "Hey I need something that does this or that, which one offers more/less/fastest etc etc." in a quickly readable format. > If you did both the reviews of all the products and major evalution it > would very helpful in showing the new comers how the products are > actually evaluated. Another benefit would be to make it easier to > find the lesser known but great products; because, they have a great > possibility of being mentioned by users who are giving their opinions > about the reviewed products. > *** I aim more than the newcomer. I want to go get the non newcomer too if it can be said that way :-). I want anyone that happens to come visit Ada World to say hey, what's this all about? and actually be able to answer that question. I think these two would definitaly help in answering these questions and although they would represent research, it's a small investment to make to mark up the quality of what they can find on Ada World, and I'm ready to comit myself to it. > Here I have a suggestion also how about articles by developers in the > field. For instance, I would find it very interesting to see what > programmers in the scientific and engineering arenas have to say about > products needed or desired for doing numerical programming. Why were > the particular IDEs and other programs used or desired. For also, I > would like to see the opinions of the readers of the articles > included. > *** This is not that hard to accomplish, today's most popular CMS systems already are setup with Articles and comments/reviews already in place.I do like the industry specific point of view approach idea. It's definitaly noted in big characters (bold, italic and underlined ;-) on my "to consider" list. If I have anything to say about it, it should be there...Wait a minute, it's my website. I do have something to say about it ;-) I hope hehe...but yeah seriously, I like the industry specific areas like that. Definitaly. Those are excellent suggestions and as I write this reply I can tell you that they are already thrown on the discussion table :-). Thank you and feel free to suggest more. That goes for everyone reading this too ;-). Stephane Richard "Ada World" webmaster http://www.adaworld.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaWorld and AdaPower 2004-11-05 23:51 ` Tom 2004-11-06 0:41 ` stephane richard @ 2004-11-07 0:33 ` David Botton 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: David Botton @ 2004-11-07 0:33 UTC (permalink / raw) On 2004-11-05 18:51:34 -0500, 8f27iw6z@canada.com (Tom) said: > May I make a suggestion instead of just product announcements is there > any way to add reviews to the products. I think that is an amazing idea. > I thinking something like a > article that compares and contrasts the new product with existing > products. What would be also be helpful is if there were a way for > current users to add their opinions to the end of the article. I am > probably dreaming in technocolor but could the articles also include > the prices of the products. I already have software written for that in PHP that I can offer to Richard (AdaWorld) for this. > > Along the same line is there a way to get an article written that > discusses all the major products in an product field. What I am > thinking is an article that compares the major strengths and > weaknesses for example of the ten most used Ada IDEs( including their > compilers). Something like what CNET does when it compares groups of > products. User feedback would also be useful here. Coolness > > If you did both the reviews of all the products and major evalution it > would very helpful in showing the new comers how the products are > actually evaluated. Another benefit would be to make it easier to > find the lesser known but great products; because, they have a great > possibility of being mentioned by users who are giving their opinions > about the reviewed products. > Agreed. David Botton ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaWorld and AdaPower 2004-11-04 4:22 ` AdaWorld and AdaPower David Botton 2004-11-04 11:28 ` stephane richard @ 2004-11-04 20:20 ` Randy Brukardt 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Randy Brukardt @ 2004-11-04 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw) "David Botton" <david@botton.com> wrote in message news:2004110323220875249%david@bottoncom... ... > - Product Announcements > > Perhaps a form that would output press releases and announcements for > Ada product releases, releases of new versions of code packages for > reuse, etc. It could automatically send out a message to CLA, a list > that people could join off of AdaWorld, and perhaps Team-Ada. I realize > that there is a list at Ada IC, but very sadly it is focused on > supporting ARA vendors and not the Ada community as a whole (although > certainly this does so on many levels, but not in the capacity at > hand). This description of what AdaIC does is not quite correct, so let me explain. The AdaIC announcement list is a *filtered* list of announcements. We try to run only things of wide-spread interest. I know I don't want to see press releases about some company you've never heard of choosing someone's product for a project, and I don't much care that version 3.1.8.7a of something is now available, either. The vendor should use their customer mailing lists to get that sort of information out. So we only run announcements of *new* Ada-related products, *major* conferences, and the like. Otherwise, the list would fill your mailbox with enough useless junk that you'd start thinking it was spam. Yes, we do give priority (and relax the filters a bit) for ARA vendor articles. But the real problem is that hardly anyone sends us announcements, and there is only so much that can be scavenged off of comp.lang.ada (and that leads heavily to non-commercial stuff -- we want a balance). I've probably missed a few announcements for new products/bindings/etc. here (thinking that they were just another release, or forgetting about them altogether); but it works better if you send them to us at webmaster@adaic.com. Another thing you should know is that the powers that be are planning a redesign/refresh of the AdaIC site with the intent of increasing its Ada Advocacy focus. I'm under orders to do as little as possible with the current site (especially not page corrections) in order to not duplicate effort (meaning that there won't be much new content beyond news and jobs for a while). I have no idea what the ultimate result of that redesign/refresh will be. Randy. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaPower Search 2004-11-03 15:30 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen 2004-11-03 16:28 ` stephane richard @ 2004-11-04 3:12 ` David Botton 2004-11-04 13:45 ` David Botton 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: David Botton @ 2004-11-04 3:12 UTC (permalink / raw) Yes, please e-mail it and I'll have it up pronto :-) David@Botton.com David Botton On 2004-11-03 10:30:39 -0500, Jean-Pierre Rosen <rosen@adalog.fr> said: > > I'd be very happy to hand this out to someone else who would make it > more prominently available. David, are you listening? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: AdaPower Search 2004-11-03 15:30 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen 2004-11-03 16:28 ` stephane richard 2004-11-04 3:12 ` AdaPower Search David Botton @ 2004-11-04 13:45 ` David Botton 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: David Botton @ 2004-11-04 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw) On 2004-11-03 10:30:39 -0500, Jean-Pierre Rosen <rosen@adalog.fr> said: > > I'd be very happy to hand this out to someone else who would make it > more prominently available. David, are you listening? Added to http://www.adapower.com Packages for Reuse / Ada Utilities David Botton ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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