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From: Rick Newbie <nuttin@nuttn.nowhere>
Subject: Re: Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 07:58:18 -0700
Date: 2020-05-13T07:58:18-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eWTuG.285309$Xk.138524@fx46.iad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hi2bvkFtqm6U1@mid.individual.net>

> Sweden and Finland are geographical neighbours and very similar in terms 
> of population structure and density. New York is much more densely 
> populated and is a major travel hub, so a higher pandemic impact is to 
> be expected.
> 
When I look at Wikipedia, Sweden has about double the population of 
Finland with a greater number of people living in bigger cities. Also 
the time of arrival of the virus or should I say the time when the 
exponential grow of cases became measurably greater is likely different.

The main point however is that, provided Finland does more extensive 
lockups as you say (I am not very familiar with Finland due to it not 
being in the news very much so I can not verify this but I take your 
word for it), Finland will get into problems when they easy or terminate 
the lockups.

While Sweden has seen maybe more cases now, they don't have to open up 
their country, while all those countries who did a lockup will 
eventually have to open up. That is provided they WILL ever upen up. 
Right now the trend seems to be to throw us a piece of bait about "soon, 
soon" and then slap us across the face again with "Nahh, not before we 
have a vaccine".

But let's assume there will be an end to the lockups, which means people 
in Finland will get in contact which each other again, which means the 
virus will begin to spread, which means more measurable cases which 
means more deaths "from" the virus (however that is number is constructed).

In short: It's a virus! And it will infect as many people as it will 
infect and it will kill as many people as it will kill. Without a 
vaccine (we are still waiting for one for AIDS, SARS, MERS and 
others...), either in a short term as in Sweden or in a long term, as 
will be the case in Finland. The overall number will be comparable.

The lockdown accomplishes nothing other destroying our countries. And 
let's not forget that the original purpose of it was "to flatten the 
curve so that the hospital's can handle the cases and don't get 
overwhelmed". Well hospitals are empty, nurses kill their time by 
dancing on Tik Tok and people are running out of money and food.

What is the argument to keep this insanity up?

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-13 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-11 18:49 Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code Rick Newbie
2020-05-11 20:27 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:12   ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-12 20:11     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 20:53       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-12 21:54         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 22:15       ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 11:07         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 13:23           ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 13:45             ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 14:58               ` Rick Newbie [this message]
2020-05-13 15:31                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-13 15:48                   ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:45   ` gautier_niouzes
2020-05-12 15:56     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:55   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-12 19:16     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 21:27       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-12 22:20         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 22:39           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-13  9:36             ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 13:52               ` Optikos
2020-05-13 14:05                 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 18:58                   ` Optikos
2020-05-13 20:29                     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 21:02                       ` Optikos
2020-05-13 21:48                         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 22:13                           ` Optikos
2020-05-13  9:54         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13  0:25 ` Olivier Henley
2020-05-15 13:23   ` Optikos
2020-05-16  5:01 ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-05-28 21:45   ` Optikos
2020-06-11 17:28   ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 17:36     ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 22:43     ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-12 12:10       ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12 12:34         ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-12 17:36           ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-21  9:18             ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-22 13:36               ` Olivier Henley
2020-05-16 22:31 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-16 23:54   ` Optikos
2020-05-17 15:41     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-17 17:38       ` Optikos
2020-05-17 18:00         ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 20:56           ` Optikos
2020-05-17 21:20             ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 21:45               ` Optikos
2020-05-18  7:34                 ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 19:20         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-17 21:30           ` Optikos
2020-05-24 21:04 ` Bob Goddard
2020-05-31 15:01 ` Azathoth Hastur
2020-06-09  6:30 ` gautier_niouzes
2020-06-11 15:35 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 15:49   ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 18:41     ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 19:58       ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 20:41         ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 20:47           ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 21:34             ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 21:47               ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 21:39             ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 23:14               ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 23:30                 ` Jere
2020-06-11 23:55                   ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12  0:07                 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12  0:42                   ` Anh Vo
2020-06-12 11:08                     ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12  7:03   ` gautier_niouzes
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