From: Optikos <ZUERCHER_Andreas@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2020-05-28T14:45:31-07:00 [thread overview]
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On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 12:01:05 AM UTC-5, Anatoly Chernyshev wrote:
> "Clowns will dominate the pandemic-forecasting domain..."
>
> I like that one...
>
> Oh dear, you've lured me out. As a person who just published a Covid-19 forecasting model programmed
> in Ada, I can't stay away from this heated conversation.
>
> There are so many concerns raised about scientists doing their rookie programming without resorting to
> professionals, so I don't even know where to start.
>
> First of all, we are curious bunch, and learning something new (like programming) is always fun. Second,
> in scientific programming the chance that someone in power will lock down a country based on the
> output of your program is negligible (certainly it wasn't on the radars 13 years ago). Third, fourth...
>
> To make a long story short, for the experiment's sake, is there anyone willing to review my code? It's not
> a marvel of Ada programming, it just works.
>
> Yet it's quite short - I went from the model's formulation, programming, testing, data acquisition,
> manuscript writeup in a matter of a fortnight.
>
> If the review is useful, in terms that it helps to produce more accurate forecasts or identifies a drastic
> flaw in the code, I would be more than happy to do a revised version of the manuscript in a coauthorship
> with the reviewer(s). Or even go for a peer-reviewed publication when dust settles.
>
> The model forecasts are here:
> April 10th: https://xph.co.nz/temp/album/
> May 12th: https://xph.co.nz/temp/album2005/
> Some technical details: https://xph.co.nz/index.php/covid-19-progression-model/
> The model description: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.03.20052985v1
>
> This is not an epidemiology-based model (so you don't have to be one). Rather, it's a phenomenological
> one. It can predict what will happen, but can't (yet) say why this will happen. A contribution on the model
> is welcomed too.
>
> The code is not published (since I didn't expect anyone would care), but I'll do it once there's interest.
>
> If keen, please write to me directly: a~at~xph~dot~co~dot~nz
>
> Anatoly
In regards to a few participants on this thread other than Anatoly:
https://twitter.com/NikolovScience/status/1250462246456578049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1250462246456578049
Another non-Ferguson modeler of notoriety has arisen, as linked above: Isaac ben-Israel. Ben-Isreal is a mathematician instead of an MD, but these models are the intersection of 3 domains of knowledge: epidemiology, mathematical modeling, and computer programming. Experts from all 3 fields need to come together (or grind against each other competitively as cordial gentlemen) to arrive at accurately-predictive forecasts; neither any one person nor any one discipline owns the whole topic lock stock & barrel. Science is best when well-reasoned factions dissent against each other, not when 97% of scientists all align to vociferously defend each other as a mutual-admiration-society brotherhood(-or-political-party) that is to not be questioned by the unwashed masses.
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2020-05-11 18:49 Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code Rick Newbie
2020-05-11 20:27 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:12 ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-12 20:11 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 20:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-12 21:54 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 22:15 ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 11:07 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 13:23 ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 13:45 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 14:58 ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 15:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-13 15:48 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:45 ` gautier_niouzes
2020-05-12 15:56 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:55 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-12 19:16 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 21:27 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-12 22:20 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 22:39 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-13 9:36 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 13:52 ` Optikos
2020-05-13 14:05 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 18:58 ` Optikos
2020-05-13 20:29 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 21:02 ` Optikos
2020-05-13 21:48 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 22:13 ` Optikos
2020-05-13 9:54 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 0:25 ` Olivier Henley
2020-05-15 13:23 ` Optikos
2020-05-16 5:01 ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-05-28 21:45 ` Optikos [this message]
2020-06-11 17:28 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 17:36 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 22:43 ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-12 12:10 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12 12:34 ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-12 17:36 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-21 9:18 ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-22 13:36 ` Olivier Henley
2020-05-16 22:31 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-16 23:54 ` Optikos
2020-05-17 15:41 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-17 17:38 ` Optikos
2020-05-17 18:00 ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 20:56 ` Optikos
2020-05-17 21:20 ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 21:45 ` Optikos
2020-05-18 7:34 ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 19:20 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-17 21:30 ` Optikos
2020-05-24 21:04 ` Bob Goddard
2020-05-31 15:01 ` Azathoth Hastur
2020-06-09 6:30 ` gautier_niouzes
2020-06-11 15:35 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 15:49 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 18:41 ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 19:58 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 20:41 ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 20:47 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 21:34 ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 21:47 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 21:39 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 23:14 ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 23:30 ` Jere
2020-06-11 23:55 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12 0:07 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12 0:42 ` Anh Vo
2020-06-12 11:08 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12 7:03 ` gautier_niouzes
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