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From: Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org>
Subject: Re: Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 08:34:36 +0100
Date: 2020-05-18T08:34:36+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ly4ksd7l2r.fsf@pushface.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: f92d456f-a207-4265-8914-319c8c91e4df@googlegroups.com

Optikos <ZUERCHER_Andreas@outlook.com> writes:

> On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 4:20:07 PM UTC-5, Simon Wright wrote:
>> Optikos writes:
>> 
>> > On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 1:00:10 PM UTC-5, Simon Wright wrote:
>> >> Optikos writes:
[...]
>> > repeated from the thread above:
>> > https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/six-questions-that-neil-ferguson-should-be-asked/amp
>> >
>> > and links therein.
>> 
>> First reactions: Not a huge fan of the Spectator, and certainly not of
>> that journalist who "is The Spectator's gossip columnist, serving up the
>> latest tittle tattle from Westminster and beyond".
>
> Hence why I overtly stated “and links therein”.  Are you likewise not
> a fan of The Telegraph and its Katherine Rushton and Daniel Faggo?

Absolutely not a fan of the "Torygraph"

> Are you likewise not a fan of Breitbart and its James Delingpole?

Well-known Brexit fanboys, which evidence suggests they're best ignored

> Here is a linked-therein critique of Ferguson's model dating back to
> foot-&-mouth disease era:
> https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/portal/files/14288330/Use_and_abuse_of_mathematical_models_an_illustration_from_the_2001_foot_and_mouth_disease_epidemic_in_the_United_Kingdom.pdf

That's a [probably justified] criticism of the use of Ferguson &co's
modelling teams' work. Not a criticism of Ferguson's model as used
recently, which - at 13 yars old - started 6 years after the 2001 FMD
outbreak.

> Perhaps ad hominem against the gossip columnist is not especially
> warranted in this case in a don't-kill-the-messenger moral of the
> story.

He writes under the byline that I quoted

> Again I reiterate from a prior reply above, these writings in the
> popular press and the critical-thinking press set a degree of
> expectation for an Ada model of pandemic forecasting to perhaps live
> up to, if they have merit.

The Edinburgh article recommends not using modelling at all prior
to/during an outbreak, only afterwards

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-18  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-11 18:49 Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code Rick Newbie
2020-05-11 20:27 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:12   ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-12 20:11     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 20:53       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-12 21:54         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 22:15       ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 11:07         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 13:23           ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 13:45             ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 14:58               ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 15:31                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-13 15:48                   ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:45   ` gautier_niouzes
2020-05-12 15:56     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:55   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-12 19:16     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 21:27       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-12 22:20         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 22:39           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-13  9:36             ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 13:52               ` Optikos
2020-05-13 14:05                 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 18:58                   ` Optikos
2020-05-13 20:29                     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 21:02                       ` Optikos
2020-05-13 21:48                         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 22:13                           ` Optikos
2020-05-13  9:54         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13  0:25 ` Olivier Henley
2020-05-15 13:23   ` Optikos
2020-05-16  5:01 ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-05-28 21:45   ` Optikos
2020-06-11 17:28   ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 17:36     ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 22:43     ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-12 12:10       ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12 12:34         ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-12 17:36           ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-21  9:18             ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-22 13:36               ` Olivier Henley
2020-05-16 22:31 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-16 23:54   ` Optikos
2020-05-17 15:41     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-17 17:38       ` Optikos
2020-05-17 18:00         ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 20:56           ` Optikos
2020-05-17 21:20             ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 21:45               ` Optikos
2020-05-18  7:34                 ` Simon Wright [this message]
2020-05-17 19:20         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-17 21:30           ` Optikos
2020-05-24 21:04 ` Bob Goddard
2020-05-31 15:01 ` Azathoth Hastur
2020-06-09  6:30 ` gautier_niouzes
2020-06-11 15:35 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 15:49   ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 18:41     ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 19:58       ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 20:41         ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 20:47           ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 21:34             ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 21:47               ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 21:39             ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 23:14               ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 23:30                 ` Jere
2020-06-11 23:55                   ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12  0:07                 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12  0:42                   ` Anh Vo
2020-06-12 11:08                     ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12  7:03   ` gautier_niouzes
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