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From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 00:54:40 +0300
Date: 2020-05-13T00:54:40+03:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <hi0k90Fiq14U1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <r9f2br$566$1@gioia.aioe.org>

On 2020-05-12 23:53, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On 2020-05-12 22:11, Niklas Holsti wrote:


    [snip]

>> The simulation is intentionally stochastic and is meant to be executed 
>> multiple times to give an ensemble of scenarios.
> 
> I did not read the blog etc, but methodologically the approach, as I 
> understand it from your description, is questionable.
> 
> In order to get a statistically relevant sample of simulations one 
> should run lots of them and likely have access to high quality random 
> numbers to avoid running into some systematic trends.


Run lots of them, yes, and that was the approach, as I understood it. I 
don't know the quality of the PRNs used, and I don't know enough about 
such simulations to judge how good PRNs are needed. Intuitively I would 
guess that PRN quality would have a much smaller effect than errors in 
the inputs and assumptions, which concern the average behaviour of 
people and the average risk of virus transmission in certain locations 
and encounters.

>> Popular and professional scientific journals and magazines have been 
>> warning for years and decades about future flu-like pandemics which 
>> could markedly reduce (or "normalize") the planet's population of Homo 
>> Sapiens.
> 
> Could be theological journals as well. There is little scientific in 
> such predictions in either direction of the outcome.


They don't have to be very scientific -- common sense and historical 
precedent, also from other over-populous species (rabbits in Australia, 
say) suggest the same.

>> Suppose, for example, that HIV had been as infective as the common flu...
> 
> Then it would adapt to the host as quickly as the common flu did. The 
> pace of adaptation directly depends on the number of replications which 
> is proportional to the contagiousness.

HIV and AIDS kill *slowly*. Plenty of time for infection to spread, 
before adaptation or immunity comes about.

-- 
Niklas Holsti
niklas holsti tidorum fi
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-12 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-11 18:49 Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code Rick Newbie
2020-05-11 20:27 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:12   ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-12 20:11     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 20:53       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-12 21:54         ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2020-05-12 22:15       ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 11:07         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 13:23           ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 13:45             ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 14:58               ` Rick Newbie
2020-05-13 15:31                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2020-05-13 15:48                   ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:45   ` gautier_niouzes
2020-05-12 15:56     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-11 21:55   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-12 19:16     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 21:27       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-12 22:20         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-12 22:39           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2020-05-13  9:36             ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 13:52               ` Optikos
2020-05-13 14:05                 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 18:58                   ` Optikos
2020-05-13 20:29                     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 21:02                       ` Optikos
2020-05-13 21:48                         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13 22:13                           ` Optikos
2020-05-13  9:54         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-13  0:25 ` Olivier Henley
2020-05-15 13:23   ` Optikos
2020-05-16  5:01 ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-05-28 21:45   ` Optikos
2020-06-11 17:28   ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 17:36     ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 22:43     ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-12 12:10       ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12 12:34         ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-12 17:36           ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-21  9:18             ` Anatoly Chernyshev
2020-06-22 13:36               ` Olivier Henley
2020-05-16 22:31 ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-16 23:54   ` Optikos
2020-05-17 15:41     ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-17 17:38       ` Optikos
2020-05-17 18:00         ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 20:56           ` Optikos
2020-05-17 21:20             ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 21:45               ` Optikos
2020-05-18  7:34                 ` Simon Wright
2020-05-17 19:20         ` Niklas Holsti
2020-05-17 21:30           ` Optikos
2020-05-24 21:04 ` Bob Goddard
2020-05-31 15:01 ` Azathoth Hastur
2020-06-09  6:30 ` gautier_niouzes
2020-06-11 15:35 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 15:49   ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 18:41     ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 19:58       ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 20:41         ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 20:47           ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 21:34             ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 21:47               ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 21:39             ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-11 23:14               ` Anh Vo
2020-06-11 23:30                 ` Jere
2020-06-11 23:55                   ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12  0:07                 ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12  0:42                   ` Anh Vo
2020-06-12 11:08                     ` Olivier Henley
2020-06-12  7:03   ` gautier_niouzes
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